cutting wrap groove question

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what is the best way to cut in a wrap groove after the finish is done?
i have brand new cutters, left, right, point, flat nose
i had a helluva time getting it started without chipping the finish
tried scoring with a razor knife
my hand isn't steady enuff for that :rolleyes:
mount a razor blade in the tool post somehow?
thanks in advance
brent
 
stix4sale said:
what is the best way to cut in a wrap groove after the finish is done?
i have brand new cutters, left, right, point, flat nose
i had a helluva time getting it started without chipping the finish
tried scoring with a razor knife
my hand isn't steady enuff for that :rolleyes:
mount a razor blade in the tool post somehow?
thanks in advance
brent

I've never had much luck cutting the groove after the finish is on. I prefer to cut it after the last coat of sealer is on the cue.

BTW I cut the groove with my router. I set it up where the left side of the bit touches just a little before the right. Then I touch off on the butt end, plunge in the desired amount and feed left half way. Then I turn the router so the right side of the bit touches first and repeat from the joint end.
 
You can use both methods but if it's chipping after the finish, the problem is how you seal the cue and prep it for spraying.
 
Michael Webb said:
You can use both methods but if it's chipping after the finish, the problem is how you seal the cue and prep it for spraying.
not sure michael, this is superglue, the first cue i've tried it on. very hard and brittle finish. i figured out a way to mount an exacto knife into my toolpost. that should take care of the problem(crossing fingers!!!!)
 
stix4sale said:
what is the best way to cut in a wrap groove after the finish is done?
i have brand new cutters, left, right, point, flat nose
i had a helluva time getting it started without chipping the finish
tried scoring with a razor knife
my hand isn't steady enuff for that :rolleyes:
mount a razor blade in the tool post somehow?
thanks in advance
brent
I do a deeper pass over the wrap area after the final router pass on the butt. When the cue's ready for the wrap, just chuck ,the wrap edge that you're going to cut, closer to the chuck then flip over to do the other end. Cutting these with a rigid tool on the butt that's chucked on end causes vibrations that causes the finish to lift.
 
stix4sale said:
not sure michael, this is superglue, the first cue i've tried it on. very hard and brittle finish. i figured out a way to mount an exacto knife into my toolpost. that should take care of the problem(crossing fingers!!!!)

I figured that's what you were using, I followed the whole thread when you all were talking about it. And don't take this in a bad way because it's just my opinion. I consider super glue an insult to the cue and the work you have put into it. I have tried it because of opinions on this board, I have also tried the 5 minute because of those same opinions, I didn't like that either. I want the finish on my cues to hold up under the abnormal circumstances. I am constantly trying different things and learning about different sealers for the butt as well as the shaft, sometimes I feel like the mad scientist. I have issues but there good ones. The moral to the story is,
You can use any finish you want if you like it, BUT! if the cue is not sealed correctly, you have just wasted your time because the finish won't stick.
 
Major stress areas for finish.
Joint and shaft edges
Above and below wrap
Edge of Butt cap
Metal rings.
 
Michael Webb said:
The moral to the story is,
You can use any finish you want if you like it, BUT! if the cue is not sealed correctly, you have just wasted your time because the finish won't stick.

Michael, can you suggest a good sealer??
 
Mase said:
Michael, can you suggest a good sealer??

Good Morning
West system is the best I have found so far. Their whole line is based on the #105 Resin with different hardners. The one for sealing wood is #207.
 
Mase said:
Michael, can you suggest a good sealer??

I use the West system also. I mix it by weigh so I can make up just enough for the job I am doing. Dixie cups are my container of choice when mixing.
 
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