Dallas Bars and Pool Halls Go Non-Smoking

A few thoughts come to mind after reading this thread.

1. Maybe we should make smokers pass emissions tests.
2. Businesses should obviously be able to change any law they wish to in order to make a profit.
3. Governments making laws? Crazy. They must've been running out of room at the cemeteries.
4. Shooting random people in the foot sounds fun. I'm sure they won't develop cancer.
 
David Beck said:
A few thoughts come to mind after reading this thread.

1. Maybe we should make smokers pass emissions tests.
2. Businesses should obviously be able to change any law they wish to in order to make a profit.
3. Governments making laws? Crazy. They must've been running out of room at the cemeteries.
4. Shooting random people in the foot sounds fun. I'm sure they won't develop cancer.


touche touche :cool:
 
Firecracker said:
For so many reasons I am against the smoking ban in Dallas. I think for Dallas, it was a bad decision at this time without the a decision by the surrounding communities to follow suit or even the state to pass a smoking ban at this time.

It is a waste of the taxpayer money and police enforcement to try and uphold this kind of law without other cities in tow. They are most likely going to lose some current tax revenue with this decision. First, light smokers may decide it's time to quit (less cigarette taxes) and heavy smokers will migrate to a bar they can smoke in on the outskirts (less alcohol revenue). The City of Dallas should have bigger fish to fry then the smoking issue at this time...I believe not that many months ago that they laid off more than a few teachers because they were short on funds.

Second, this decision is going to hurt the local Dallas bar business in some ways until the other cities follow suit. Take Clicks Marsh for example, they are right on the edge of the Dallas city line. As a smoking pool player, if I had the same drive between Clicks and Billiard Den in Richardson, I am going to choose the Den. Even if I lived a little further, I would still drive to the Den over Clicks. Yes, there may be some non-smokers that drive a little further to play at Clicks but I hate to say it, statistically, smokers also tend to be heavier drinkers.

Third, they are taking a bar owners decision to set the rules for their business. As long as smoking is legal and they continue to take our money for taxes on cigarettes, business owners should have the right to decide whether to allow that behavior in their establishment. Obviously bar owners to this point do not think that a non-smoking bar/pool hall would be a profitable establishment or we would see more non-smoking rooms. I was reading a statistic on the vote day for Dallas that only 20% of the population smokes, but the general age for bar patrons in 21-35 and smoking ratio is closer to 70%. There are exceptions for pool rooms as you tend to see a larger age diversity, but keep in mind, most pool rooms stay in business from their bar sales, not their table time.

I know that eventually that you will not be able to smoke anywhere but inside your house (unless you have children present, then you will go to jail), but until it is universal, I think the Dallas City Council made a very ignorant decision last week.

I agree Dallas did make a bad decision. But if you are a non-smoker, it is a start. A few years back I quit playing becuase I just got tired of the smoky
pool halls. I quit for about 1 1/2 to 2 years, (I took up fishing, LOL), but anyway, at first I wasn't to excited, but now, I can't wait.
I took a trip to visit my sister in California years back. I found a weekly tournament and decided to participate. After a long night, it finished around 1:30, i felt refresh and it seemed like I could play all day. I got back home and tried to figure out why I played with more intensity and focus all night and after winning the tournament still had some energy to spare. Keep in mind my first time in California, I finally realized that the pool hall was non-smoking. I keep wondering why the pool hall was jam pack at times and then it seem like everyone left at the same time, LOL.
 
This is a tough one, because I am a non smoker, but I also am a firm believer in a free market society.

I don't think it is right for the government to tell a company that they cannot allow smoking.

What I would love to see new rooms open up that were non smoking. I think that would be the tell all. If they did well, then it would mean that there is a market for it. If not, then the ban is wrong anyway because, obviously, the majority of the bars customers are smokers and they should be able to spend their money where they want to.

The biggest fear of course is that the non smoking rooms would fail due to a lack of business. That would mean we are back where we started from!

Royce Bunnell
www.obcue.com
 
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