David Howard

Bobby

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How good is/was the "Giant Killer" David Howard? I've seen him play at a couple of U.S. Open 9-ball events and he seemed like a very good player but he looked like he was just a little bit past his best days, but you could see he has a lot of knowledge. I know he won the U.S. Open 9-ball twice in the 80's and that can't be a fluke, I mean only Sigel, Hall, Varner and Strickland have done that. So how good was he in the 1980's? Anyone see him at his best?

Bobby
 
Bobby said:
How good is/was the "Giant Killer" David Howard? I've seen him play at a couple of U.S. Open 9-ball events and he seemed like a very good player but he looked like he was just a little bit past his best days, but you could see he has a lot of knowledge. I know he won the U.S. Open 9-ball twice in the 80's and that can't be a fluke, I mean only Sigel, Hall, Varner and Strickland have done that. So how good was he in the 1980's? Anyone see him at his best?

Bobby

Lil David had a MONSTER break...he shot lights out for years. I was lucky enough to play him in a Florida Tour event in the mid 80's when he was in dead punch. 9-1 The score totally reflected his play and not mine because he put a 5 pack on me from Jump Street, kinna hard to recoop from that against anyone let alone a US Open champion!!
 
Voodoo Daddy said:
Lil David had a MONSTER break...he shot lights out for years. I was lucky enough to play him in a Florida Tour event in the mid 80's when he was in dead punch. 9-1 The score totally reflected his play and not mine because he put a 5 pack on me from Jump Street, kinna hard to recoop from that against anyone let alone a US Open champion!!


He played pretty strong in the late '70's too. I watched him win the Southern Open at Greenway Billiards back then. All the top players at the time were there. He did have an incredible break, if I remember correctly, both feet left the floor when he broke.


Lunchmoney
 
Bobby said:
How good is/was the "Giant Killer" David Howard? I've seen him play at a couple of U.S. Open 9-ball events and he seemed like a very good player but he looked like he was just a little bit past his best days, but you could see he has a lot of knowledge. I know he won the U.S. Open 9-ball twice in the 80's and that can't be a fluke, I mean only Sigel, Hall, Varner and Strickland have done that. So how good was he in the 1980's? Anyone see him at his best?

Bobby

A very tough player and good road player, played good on all tables. His biggest problem was not being an all around player. His best game was 9-ball but played one pocket only so-so and straight pool awful. He was in a final of an all around tournament once with Rempy. He lost the toss and Rempy chose to play straight pool first. David had so much trouble he just slammed the balls leaving an open table for Rempy. Rempy said, "If you aren't ever going to try just quit". David raked the balls and they went on the 9-ball after not even playing 30 points of a 150 point game. David ended up losing. I think this was one of Gradys tournaments, he may remember this. David lost some real heart breakers. I saw him lose a final to Sigal by miscuing on the case game 9-ball, he lost other close finals.
 
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i just remember his break. My GOD what a break he had!

The first big tournament I drove to was a Florida Pro tourny at CM lee's place in Seminole. Probably 1983 or 1984. We pull up and the place is packed. I look around for a place to sit down to start sweating some matches and the only place I see is this wide open spot behind David Howards table (directly behind where you rack). So I go to sit down the seats make it so that your head and shoulders were just above table level. I am half watching, watching instead Earl run out on the table next to us when all of sudden SMAASHHH! David just crushes the rack and I think I might have jumped straight up and nearly hit the ceiling, half ducking at the same time. Scared the bejesus out of me.

The rest of the match I debated moving because everytime David got ready to break I was seriously unable to decide should I cover up my face somewhat or is that sharking him or should I just sit here and hope the cueball doesnt fly right off and rearrange my face? It was brutal.
 
Bobby said:
How good is/was the "Giant Killer" David Howard? .... I know he won the U.S. Open 9-ball twice in the 80's and that can't be a fluke, I mean only Sigel, Hall, Varner and Strickland have done that. So how good was he in the 1980's? Anyone see him at his best?

Bobby

Consider your knowledge of him already. To be able to twice win the most presitigious 9-ball event twice, and to do it in the era of a young Jim Rempe, Mike Sigel, Buddy Hall, Nick Varner, Earl Strickland, Steve Mizerak, and Allen Hopkins. Wow!!!

He won 20 "major tournaments." That's the tournaments where all the big guns got together. That should put him as one of the elite 9-ball players of his time.

Fred
 
Fine player who won two US Open nine ball events. Widely regarded as the player with the most powerful break in the late 70's and early 80's. Seem to recall that he was the first ever to go over 30 mph on the radar gun over 25 years ago (break cue technology has come a long way since).

David was a true power player in every sense, though probably not as sharp tactically as the very best of his era.

Last time I saw David Howard play really well was at the 1996 Florida Flareup in Fort Lauderdale, a PBT event. Reason I remember it so well is that he beat Efren Reyes handily in a first round match, after which Reyes won ten straight matches to reach the final against Johnny Archer. Efren won the final 13 - 2!

David was a very highly respected player in his heyday.
 
Unfortunately David Howard is no longer playing. I saw David Grossman at the DCC (who lives in Saint Augustine, just a short drive from Lil David's Pool room in Orange Park [Jacksonsville]) and Grossman was telling me Howard doesnt play at all anymore. Maybe some of the Jacksonville players on this board can confirm this.
 
Thanks for the information and the stories guys! I was curious about him because he's rarely mentioned even though he's won the two U.S. Opens. I'm a little surprised about him quitting that 14.1 match with Rempe though.

Bobby
 
Bobby said:
Thanks for the information and the stories guys! I was curious about him because he's rarely mentioned even though he's won the two U.S. Opens. I'm a little surprised about him quitting that 14.1 match with Rempe though.

Bobby

I am pretty certain that that tournament was put on by Grady and L. Bloodworth. One interesting thing about the tournament was Ray Martin. The tournament was straight pool, one pocket and 9-ball. Ray martin was in all three and it worked out with him on the loser side in all three having to play match after match for an entire day. He would play 9 ball then go to the next table and play straight pool then one pocket almost never taking a break. It was amazing how he just kept playing top pool hour after hour, he was an iron man. At one point in his bare feet in the middle of the night still playing. I believe the final three was Danny D. in the one pocket, Rempy in the straight pool and David H. in the nine ball with Rempy winning the all around.
 
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sjm said:
Last time I saw David Howard play really well was at the 1996 Florida Flareup in Fort Lauderdale, a PBT event. Reason I remember it so well is that he beat Efren Reyes handily in a first round match,

Hi SJM,
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Do you remember the way he threw his cue stick to the ground when he scratched in a match with Nick Warner? I was with David`s brother and was rooting for David. If he did not scratch he would have won the match. prior to his match with varner he beat Jamie Goodwin of Battle creek ,MI.In that match the first 8 breaks ( by Jamie and David together) no player made a ball on the breaks.That situation can make the people believe what Pat Fleming has been saying all along regards the break in 9 ball.
 
Bobby said:
I know he won the U.S. Open 9-ball twice in the 80'

Bobby

He won US Open 2 times & and also was Runner Up 2 times.
I played him 200 $ per set 9 Ball with no handicap on three different occasions and I lost to him in all the three occasions.
 
I first saw David play at the Wagon Wheel in Atlanta when they hosted the pro events in the late 80's. He won one of the events there that had all the top players in it. He beat Mike LeBron in the finals. I never saw anyone offering him any weight to match up in pool. One of the locals always tried to get him on the golf coarse so he could relieve him of some of the pool money he had won.
 
I saw David play quite a bit back in the 70's and 80's. Some players look better than they play. David played better than he looked. He was a Meucci staff player back in those days along with Rempe and Sigel, but many folks didn't consider him in their class.
 
Little David

His first nickname was Little David, because he played so good while still a young boy. Then he became "The Giant Killer" for obvious reasons. He kept beating the giants of the game.

Yes, he did have the best break of his time, along with Wade Crane. In those days (the 70's and 80's) you could go to a tournament and there was usually a 64 man field. That was considered a full field in those days. And most of the bigger tournaments filled up, unlike the state of the present UPA, where they struggle to get 50 players.

And in a field of 64, there would be 8-10 players considered the favorites.
These were the guys with a legitimate chance to win. David was always in that group! Others included Strickland, Sigel, Hall, Varner, Rempe, Hopkins, Mizerak (already slipping by the 80's), Davenport, Parica (when here) and Efren when he played. Behind this group were players like Danny Medina and Jay Swanson. These were the elite players of their generation.

David was definitely a favorite to make the top six in any tournament he played. My standing joke with him whenever I was directing an event: I would see him in the hallway of the hotel or coffee shop and ask him "Are you still in?" He would laugh and say "yeah, barely". This went on for years and more often than not, David would be playing on the final day.

He was a fun guy to have around, a terrific player and never a problem for the T.D. (meaning me). He rarely complained about anything. David had a very good attitude, always upbeat. He and Rempe were the main reps for Meucci for years, selling their cues at every tour stop. This is how they paid their expenses. As small as those tournaments were (typically ten to twenty grand added), they were larger by comparison to what you see today in many pro tour events.

In those days, if you won 10K, like at the Sands, it was a big score. Probably about like winning 25 or 30K today. Still, only the top players made any good money at tournaments, much like current events.
 
vagabond said:
Hi SJM,
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Do you remember the way he threw his cue stick to the ground when he scratched in a match with Nick Warner? I was with David`s brother and was rooting for David. If he did not scratch he would have won the match. prior to his match with varner he beat Jamie Goodwin of Battle creek ,MI.In that match the first 8 breaks ( by Jamie and David together) no player made a ball on the breaks.That situation can make the people believe what Pat Fleming has been saying all along regards the break in 9 ball.

I don't remember that one, Vagabond, but I do remember that it was Goodwin's breakout tournament on the PBT. He came within a rack of the final, losing double hill to Efren Reyes in the semifinal. Prior to that, Goodwin had traveled below my radar.
 
Tampa all round tournament

macguy said:
I am pretty certain that that tournament was put on by Grady and L. Bloodworth. One interesting thing about the tournament was Ray Martin. The tournament was straight pool, one pocket and 9-ball. Ray martin was in all three and it worked out with him on the loser side in all three having to play match after match for an entire day. He would play 9 ball then go to the next table and play straight pool then one pocket almost never taking a break. It was amazing how he just kept playing top pool hour after hour, he was an iron man. At one point in his bare feet in the middle of the night still playing. I believe the final three was Danny D. in the one pocket, Rempy in the straight pool and David H. in the nine ball with Rempy winning the all around.
I believe Martin beat Howard in the nine ball finals. DiLiberto over Stigall in one pocket and Rempe over Martin in nine ball.
 

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