DCC Straight Pool shoot-out

[Bob Jewett]

We are trying to finalize the format for the 2006 Derby City Classic 14.1 shoot-out. Here is the current version, not yet cast in stone, but I think we're pretty close. Suggestions?

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The game is straight pool (14.1). There will be six days of prelims on about six tables. $50 entry for three tries. Each try begins with a 14-ball rack and the 15th ball and the cue ball in hand, but both the 15th ball and the cue ball must be at least one ball diameter from any other ball. Each try ends on a miss or foul. A run of 40 in the prelims gets you one try in the finals, 80 - two tries, 120 - three tries, and so on. Only your highest run in the prelims counts, so three runs of 42 only gets you one try in the finals. You may enter the prelims more than once, but on subsequent entries, you only get one try.

The finals will be over two days on two tables. You shoot as many tries (1,2,3, ...) as you earned with your best run in the prelims. Order of play will be by high run starting with the lowest. If there are a lot of entries, we may have to limit the finals to the top 50 players.

Prizes ($10k added, entries 100% returned):

Prelims: 1st $1500, 2nd $1000, 3rd $500

Finals: 1st $2000, 2nd $1500, 3rd $1000, 4th $500.

Bonus: $2000 for high run overall.

Special bonus: $1000 for the first run over 200.

The above payouts are with no entries and will be higher according to the final number of entries. With 200 entries, the amounts above are roughly doubled, and we will pay deeper in the finals.

Each player can receive only one payout in each of the two phases (prelims and finals), even if he has multiple high runs in one phase. If the highest run occurs in the prelims, that player will get (more than) $3500.

 

[Williebetmore]

BobJ,
It sounds very interesting. No real suggestions, but I was wondering if you are going to have a referee monitor the run; are you using a scorekeeper; are you playing all ball fouls; do you need any volunteers to assist??

P.S. - Good luck with the event; I'm hoping that it will generate enough interest to have some real (ie. competitive) straight pool in future DCC's.

 

[Bob Jewett]

... I was wondering if you are going to have a referee monitor the run; are you using a scorekeeper; are you playing all ball fouls; do you need any volunteers to assist??
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Depending on the number of volunteers, we will try to monitor fouls especially in the longer runs. I think a single scorekeeper will be able track multiple tables if necessary. We still need to work out those details.

 

[breakup]

Just one suggestion. If possible it would be nice for spectators to be able to see what the score is as the run is in progress. Beads on a wire or something where everyone can see.

 

[RSB-Refugee]

Just one suggestion. If possible it would be nice for spectators to be able to see what the score is as the run is in progress. Beads on a wire or something where everyone can see.

How about little monitors throughout the venue. They could show the current score per table. If someone starts to get a decent run going, everyone in the place would know. There could also be a big leader-board.

Tracy

 

[Bob Jewett]

How about little monitors throughout the venue. They could show the current score per table. If someone starts to get a decent run going, everyone in the place would know. There could also be a big leader-board.

Tracy

We're planning on a leader board, but the monitor thing is too much, unless someone would like to volunteer to set that up. The leader board will also list the current prize amounts during the prelims to encourage the wall flowers to get in. I think we might get 200 entries, in which case the top player could get up to $10,000 if he has the high run in both phases.

 

[BooBoo]

14:1

It's nice to see straight pool get some sorely needed attention at the DCC. I applaud your effort for the attempt. With this being a ball running contest, hopefully it will generate enough interest to set up some real straight pool tournys in the future with player to player competition as in the days of old. Things have to start somewhere, and this is a great interest generator to get players and promoters to be involved in the great game of straight pool. I hope it flies.

 

[TheOne]

Hi Bob, this is great but the only thing I don't like is the two ball in hands on the first shot. The reason I first mentioned this some time ago was I wanted to see what high run the best players in the world could get, could anyone challenge Mosconi's record? I would like to hear other peoples opinions but would these runs stand up as legitimate given they will be able to start with ball in hand? I would rather see the player break the first rack with any balls spotted and then start his run from there? Not sure if this makes it much more legitimate but at least the player is not arrangeing balls with his hand?

It would be such a shame if someone breaks the record but the run isn't recognised?

 

[Bob Jewett]

... I would rather see the player break the first rack with any balls spotted and then start his run from there? ..

I think that makes the beginning easier, not harder. The record-keepers can subtract the first point if they want to.

 

[TheOne]

I think that makes the beginning easier, not harder. The record-keepers can subtract the first point if they want to.

Yeah sorry bob I didn't mean it made it any easier. I just meant it was an artificial run because the run was started with a shot set up by hand which I suspect will make it void? Some of the highest runs I suspect have been made playing solo but have probably started after a miss or even the first time the player the broke the balls. Either way I can't wait to play if I make it there?

 

[mjantti]

I don't think setting up a break shot with your hand is going to make things easier if you look at the whole picture. You might as well go for a high break on an exhibition/practice match in which your so-called opponent just busts the balls wide open for you and then you try to make an official run because it was made in match situation, although the method isn't really by-the-book. If you know what I mean. Mosconi's high run could have started on a wide open table, but it doesn't really matter what kind of a layout he had in the first place, because the record stands after 38 full racks later. I don't think in this system it should matter, as long as the shooter cannot bust the rack open with his first shot 8-ball style or Equal Offense style.

Just my two cents. Also the score board is an excellent idea. Also, if you can get someone to rack for the player, it would make things easier for the player and also a little bit faster. No shot clock & extensions I presume ?

 

[Gerry]

527 in site?

I don't think it matters how the run starts, AFTER the first rack it's all even. it's the same as a player missing, then you getting up and going from there. So worst case you could subtract 14 from the score if someone did make a new world record run! ( i hope like hell someone does) it would draw alot of attention to the best game of all time. Another point would be the "no pressure" of not being in direct competition, but I guess Mosconi was only doing an exhibition, so it's evensteven in my book!

BTW look out you guys, I went to the pool room today and layed out a technically awful 67 on some real nice equiptment.

Later....G

 

[TheOne]

BTW look out you guys, I went to the pool room today and layed out a technically awful 67 on some real nice equiptment.

Later....G

Go Gerry!!!

BTW, I was just looking at some accustats tapes at the open, does anyone know what the official highest run on video is? My paultry 90odd gets a lot of hits and I notice that most of the runs accustats have obviosuly stop at 150. I might have to get the camera out and record a 150+ for the highest recorded run he he

 

[mjantti]

I don't think it matters how the run starts, AFTER the first rack it's all even. it's the same as a player missing, then you getting up and going from there. So worst case you could subtract 14 from the score if someone did make a new world record run! ( i hope like hell someone does) it would draw alot of attention to the best game of all time. Another point would be the "no pressure" of not being in direct competition, but I guess Mosconi was only doing an exhibition, so it's evensteven in my book!

BTW look out you guys, I went to the pool room today and layed out a technically awful 67 on some real nice equiptment.

Later....G

Next time have a videocamera with you, we might not believe you For some reason running technically awful 67 might be much more satisfying than running perfect 67. You feel like you've done more work for the run.

If I can get to practise in quiet tomorrow, I try to break the 50 barrier... with a digicam with me. Last weekend I sucked so badly and ran only 33 (on tape).

To The 1: Your "puny" (*cough) run of 90s isn't to be ashamed, despite several Accu-Stat 150s. I've seen you shooting, you should get there easily... but maybe some mental barriers are to be bulldozes before that, eh ? Good luck Craig !

Gonna shoot some 14.1 more, just realized I can almost always get myself relaxed when shooting straight pool, not the case with 9-ball.

 

[Gerry]

Next time have a videocamera with you, we might not believe you For some reason running technically awful 67 might be much more satisfying than running perfect 67. You feel like you've done more work for the run.
I have a few small runs on video from a few years back when I had a table at home, most of them are in the 40's to 60's. I used to watch Mike Sigel run 150, then get on the table and try to play "technically correct" you know , no banks or 3 ball billiards I'll have a table at my new house in the next few months, so taping will resume then! Sadly enough, I'm not about to bring my camera to the room I'm practicing in now, nice equiptment, but a tough neighborhood at night.

Gonna shoot some 14.1 more, just realized I can almost always get myself relaxed when shooting straight pool, not the case with 9-ball.

Thats because the table is YOURS in 14.1, in 9-ball you win a game, then it's break time, and who knows what........G