DERBY CITY CLASSIC DRESS CODE

[Jimmy_Betmore]

I intentionally asked the cashier in the coffee shop one morning what it was like having the place full of pool players. She laughed and said, “Oh, it’s all right, but it is like somebody sprayed the whole place with a can of testosterone.”

Dude, I went down one year just for a few hours and the (now) ex wife tagged along. We were walking around checking out cues and stuff while Joe B. did some tip work for me and I asked her what she thought of the whole thing and she said, "I can smell the testosterone in this place." I swear on my life that's the truth.

I loved the interactions with people I'd never met. But we were all there for the same reason. Except one year... Somehow a Christian group with a boatload of kids got booked at the same time as The Derby. It was beyond surreal to see all these sheltered Christian kids walking around with some of the most stone cold gamblers, drunks, and chemical enthusiasts on the planet. Thankfully, I didn't hear of any issues that came of it. It was just funny in way I lack the creative writing skills to fully explain.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

Well the truth be known Corporate America don’t support anything or sponsor anything unless their is a return on the investment of Advertising or PR Dollar spent.

These corporations employ people to look at little things like if they say spend 2.5 million bucks on say a Super Bowl Commercial, what is the audience viewing the commercial, what is the average income of the people watching the event.

Corporate America like Car Companies, Watch companies, Investment Firms, Banks, etc., spend big buck annually sponsoring, buying ads, and last supporting Professional Golf.

Why because the AVERAGE Golf Fan, or Recreation Player has a HIGH CREDIT SCORE, that say they have extra income to purchase product or service, the sponsor have to offer via advertising.

Wonder how many Pool Player, and Spectator who are at this year DCC, have a CREDIT SCORE over 840?” Will to bet only a handful at best.

Ask the same question about the Players & Spectators at the PGA Master Golf Tournament in Georgia, the number of people with the 840 CREDIT SCORE is very very very large.

Maybe that is why the PGA is offering it Pro Player Big Purses any weekend on the PGA Tournament.

 

[Tobermory]

Dude, I went down one year just for a few hours and the (now) ex wife tagged along. We were walking around checking out cues and stuff while Joe B. did some tip work for me and I asked her what she thought of the whole thing and she said, "I can smell the testosterone in this place." I swear on my life that's the truth.

I loved the interactions with people I'd never met. But we were all there for the same reason. Except one year... Somehow a Christian group with a boatload of kids got booked at the same time as The Derby. It was beyond surreal to see all these sheltered Christian kids walking around with some of the most stone cold gamblers, drunks, and chemical enthusiasts on the planet. Thankfully, I didn't hear of any issues that came of it. It was just funny in way I lack the creative writing skills to fully explain.

Dear Jimmy-Betmore,

I got curious whether one can smell testosterone, so I looked it up on Google and AI. Basically you can’t smell testosterone, BUT testosterone heightens the effect of related hormones, such as androstenone, which DO have an odor, and AI specifically mentions that many women find this odor attractive. So what my cashier and your ex-wife meant to say was, “Smells like androstenone in here.”

 

[Tobermory]

Well the truth be known Corporate America don’t support anything or sponsor anything unless their is a return on the investment of Advertising or PR Dollar spent.

These corporations employ people to look at little things like if they say spend 2.5 million bucks on say a Super Bowl Commercial, what is the audience viewing the commercial, what is the average income of the people watching the event.

Corporate America like Car Companies, Watch companies, Investment Firms, Banks, etc., spend big buck annually sponsoring, buying ads, and last supporting Professional Golf.

Why because the AVERAGE Golf Fan, or Recreation Player has a HIGH CREDIT SCORE, that say they have extra income to purchase product or service, the sponsor have to offer via advertising.

Wonder how many Pool Player, and Spectator who are at this year DCC, have a CREDIT SCORE over 840?” Will to bet only a handful at best.

Ask the same question about the Players & Spectators at the PGA Master Golf Tournament in Georgia, the number of people with the 840 CREDIT SCORE is very very very large.

Maybe that is why the PGA is offering it Pro Player Big Purses any weekend on the PGA Tournament.

Dear Cocobolo Cowboy,

Some years ago I suggested, almost as a joke, that, if we really wanted to get big corporate sponsors interested in pool, we wouldn’t care about how the players dressed. We would worry about how the SPECTATORS dressed!

So at pool tournaments we would have to have a person who would function the way a maitre de does in an upscale restaurant. He would size up the clothing of guests, meaning our spectators, at the entrance and, in the case of people whose attire didn’t meet his standard, he would tell them they would have to sit in the second balcony, out of camera shot, in the same the way that if you are marginal in an upscale restaurant you are banished to near the kitchen door or behind a pillar. (Known as Sibere, French for Siberia, in upscale eateries.)

Why do I know even before I press “Post Reply” that this suggestion will not find support?

 

[straightline]

I heard a story about some lawyers that got 86d from a local but ritzy French place for sampling each other's food.

 

[lfigueroa]

I mean, I don't know what you were there to see. But I saw a lot more than just guys in t-shirts and shower clogs playing pool. But you probably have been and still go to more pro events then I ever have or will. Anyway, the magical part for me was the sheer energy of it. There was something going on 24 hours a day. Gambling, woofing, story telling... Characters galore... It felt like the center of the pool universe for nine straight days.

And, all things considered, it was pretty cheap. If I remember correctly, I could get a room for about $120 a night. Just for comparison's sake, the last specific year I remember going to the EW was 2004 (I know I went several times after that. But the years blended together.) That $120 or so would be $205 today according to the a bank inflation calculator. So, still reasonable for a decent room that's an elevator ride from the event you're there to see. Was it fancy? Hell no. Was it fun? Hell YES.

I was there to play in the 1pocket.

And I recall waiting in line at the EW hotel registration desk, with guys generally dressed as I previously described, and thinking, "I can't believe this is my demographic."

Lou Figueroa

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

IMHO PoolPlayer are their own biggest enemy, they do nt want to conform with dress, or conduct code. They IMHO are killing their own sport. Willie Mosconi was at one time Pool Greatest Ambassador, not many Mosconi Types in the Sport today.

 

[Tennesseejoe]

If you look at some of the Titans of pool you will see very well dressed professionals. Look at Sigel, Jeanette Lee, Kim Davenport, Ralf Souquet, Mika Immonen, Efren Reyes, Neils Feijen, Shane, Earl, Buddy, Mike Masse, Jimmy Mataya, Jimmy Reid, Mizerak, etc. These winners are neat and represent the sport. Next time you look at a winners list ... you be the judge.

 

[Icon of Sin]

Same thread, different year.

 

[Icon of Sin]

If you look at some of the Titans of pool you will see very well dressed professionals. Look at Sigel, Jeanette Lee, Kim Davenport, Ralf Souquet, Mika Immonen, Efren Reyes, Neils Feijen, Shane, Earl, Buddy, Mike Masse, Jimmy Mataya, Jimmy Reid, Mizerak, etc. These winners are neat and represent the sport. Next time you look at a winners list ... you be the judge.

First, most of those players are from a completely different era, when pool was booming and on TV.

The ones that dress neat now are the current big names but this is mainly due to sponsorships. They are representing a company or brand and I'm sure those businesses want someone looking nice... If nice is what you call those pool jerseys.

 

[Icon of Sin]

IMHO PoolPlayer are their own biggest enemy, they do nt want to conform with dress, or conduct code. They IMHO are killing their own sport. Willie Mosconi was at one time Pool Greatest Ambassador, not many Mosconi Types in the Sport today.

 

[skogstokig]

If you look at some of the Titans of pool you will see very well dressed professionals. Look at Sigel, Jeanette Lee, Kim Davenport, Ralf Souquet, Mika Immonen, Efren Reyes, Neils Feijen, Shane, Earl, Buddy, Mike Masse, Jimmy Mataya, Jimmy Reid, Mizerak, etc. These winners are neat and represent the sport. Next time you look at a winners list ... you be the judge.

sure. but the more successful players have more sponsors, and with that more reasons/obligations to dress properly

 

[Icon of Sin]

Yeah, but Fats always wore a suit. Don't think we ever saw him in baggy basketball shorts and a wife beater.

Basketball shorts from that era weren't baggy. I really doubt you'd want to see Fats bent over a pool table in a pair of basketball shorts from his time.

 

[8intheside]

This is why POOL & POOL PLAYERS will never always be consider a bush league sport. Say they look like a Buch of BUMS is the Reason Pool is struggling to attract major sponsors to create large pots of cash for winning major events.

This is why POOL & POOL PLAYERS will never always be consider a bush league sport. Say they look like a Buch of BUMS is the Reason Pool is struggling to attract major sponsors to create large pots of cash for winning major events.

It makes absolutely no difference what they’re wearing, players use to wear tuxedos back in the day and still didn’t get respect from the general public, Pool is pool and only true pool fans will appreciate it.

 

[Jimmy_Betmore]

Dear Jimmy-Betmore,

I got curious whether one can smell testosterone, so I looked it up on Google and AI. Basically you can’t smell testosterone, BUT testosterone heightens the effect of related hormones, such as androstenone, which DO have an odor, and AI specifically mentions that many women find this odor attractive. So what my cashier and your ex-wife meant to say was, “Smells like androstenone in here.”

That's crazy! Thanks for the info. I still chat with her every once in a while and I'm sure she'd get a kick out of that tidbit.