Differences in Shafts

[Anthony_Beeler]

Has anyone played with both the red dot and black dot Meucci Shafts? I have an original shaft I love very much. I then got the red dot and hated it. I am wondering if the black dots are any better than the red dots. Im just curious is anyone has tried both?

 

[Michael Webb]

In my experience in learning about shaft options and differences. If you didn't like the red dot you won't like the black one either. Not every one can adjust to a low deflection shaft, Nor should you have to. That's why there are different shafts and options. To accomodate different tastes.

 

[shaky]

I play with a black dot shaft and a sniper tip which for me is the perfect combination. One of my freinds migrated from the meucci standard to a black dot and it took him about three months to get used to it. Other players I know have tried them but went back to the original shaft. You have to give yourself time to adjust same as predator shafts. Before I got my meucci I played with a Lucasi with standard shaft then tried my friends meucci with a black dot and just had to have one. I have nothing against any quality cue and have tried different brands some where great hitting but the meucci seems to fit my stroke the best. Play with what ever you are comfortable with, any doubts will just harm your game.

 

[halhoule]

Jack Slade

Has anyone played with both the red dot and black dot Meucci Shafts? I have an original shaft I love very much. I then got the red dot and hated it. I am wondering if the black
10C2
dots are any better than the red dots. Im just curious is anyone has tried both?

WHY WOULD COLORED DOTS ON A SHAFT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN A PLAYER'S ABILITY? SHAFTS, CUES, TABLES, WHATEVER, HAVE NO BEARING ON WHETHER THE PLAYER REALLY IS OR NOT AN ACCOMPLISHED PLAYER. EQUIPMENT DOES NOT POCKET BALLS. PLAYERS DO. REACHING ONE'S FULL POTENTIAL IN THIS GAME OF POOL IS TOTALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE EXTENT OF KNOWLEDGE THE PLAYER HAS. ALMOST UNIVERSALLY, THE RECREATIONAL PLAYER IS OPERATING WITH A BADLY FLAWED METHOD OF AIMING,THAT IS NOT ACCURATE AND CONSISTENT ON EVERY SHOT. UNLESS PLAYERS ACQUIRE AN AIMING METHOD THAT REALLY DOES THE JOB, THEY WILL NEVER REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. IN FACT, THEY WILL NEVER GET ANYWHERE CLOSE TO PLAYING WELL, BY THE VERY FACT THAT THEY PLAY WITH BADLY FLAWED METHODS. IT IS A NO-WIN PROPOSITION

 

[drivermaker]

Any and all shafts give a certain feedback to the player that feels just right, or something's just wrong and the CB does react differently with various shafts, some better than others. That having been said, I will attest to the fact that there is no better teacher and more knowledgeable person on the planet than Hal Houle when it comes to aiming systems. NONE! Typically the science geeks will come crawling out of the woodwork because their geometry diagrams can't be used due to certain factors in the shooting process and they'll be whining to high heavens about one thing or another, but they work and that's all that matters. I'll be interested to see who the first whiner is going to be and who follows suit.

 

[LAMas]

Back in the 60's and 70's when there weren't many tournaments road players used to pull house sticks off the wall to make a living and not call attention to themself by screwing together and shooting with a Balabushka.

Now days, players won't shoot less gamble without their personal cue.

I still like to pull a stick off of the wall and shoot bar boxes when on vacation.

 

[Bludworm]

Has anyone played with both the red dot and black dot Meucci Shafts? I have an original shaft I love very much. I then got the red dot and hated it. I am wondering if the black dots are any better than the red dots. Im just curious is anyone has tried both?

I bought a brand new Meucci with a red dot shaft in December. By May the shaft was warped. I don't expose my cue's to extreme temperature differences. Anyway, I never really liked the shaft. It just didn't feel to be of very good quality. The ferrule to me looked like cheap plastic. I've since had the butt fitted with a new Predator 314 shaft and I fell in love with it instantly! As for my opinion, Bob Meucci IS giving you a royal shafting with the red and black dots. Never again will I allow such cheap trash in my cue case!

Sincerely,
T.

 

[shaky]

I have to agree with Hal a cue is only as good as the person holding it. There are lots of players out there that use house cues and can kick butt with them. Its just a matter of personal preference.

 

[Anthony_Beeler]

WHY WOULD COLORED DOTS ON A SHAFT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN A PLAYER'S ABILITY? SHAFTS, CUES, TABLES, WHATEVER, HAVE NO BEARING ON WHETHER THE PLAYER REALLY IS OR NOT AN ACCOMPLISHED PLAYER. EQUIPMENT DOES NOT POCKET BALLS. PLAYERS DO. REACHING ONE'S FULL POTENTIAL IN THIS GAME OF POOL IS TOTALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE EXTENT OF KNOWLEDGE THE PLAYER HAS. ALMOST UNIVERSALLY, THE RECREATIONAL PLAYER IS OPERATING WITH A BADLY FLAWED METHOD OF AIMING,THAT IS NOT ACCURATE AND CONSISTENT ON EVERY SHOT. UNLESS PLAYERS ACQUIRE AN AIMING METHOD THAT REALLY DOES THE JOB, THEY WILL NEVER REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. IN FACT, THEY WILL NEVER GET ANYWHERE CLOSE TO PLAYING WELL, BY THE VERY FACT THAT THEY PLAY WITH BADLY FLAWED METHODS. IT IS A NO-WIN PROPOSITION

I am well aware of that. Currently I play with a Bill McDaniel cue. They have very high quailty shafts. I switched from an old Meucci (no dot) because the cue was getting fairly old and I wanted a newer cue. The new Meucci (or red dot) cue I purchased just did not seem to not be of the same quality. I am sure that the "dots" make no difference in the quality. However, some shafts are cheaper made than others. I was just wondering if the black dots are of higher quality because they are laminated wood. I just thought this might be Bob's answer to all of the complaints about the red dots because they just seem to be cheaply made. I am well aware that the quality of play is not solely dependant on the cue. However, I am also aware that some shafts provide better feedback to the player than others. I claim to be no pro but I do believe that I am quite knowledgable about some of the generalities of the game. Especially concerning the quality of feeback given from cue shafts. In tournament play I have beat players such as Charlie "Hillbilly" Bryant and World Bank Pool Champion Larry Price.

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[Pelican]

WHY WOULD COLORED DOTS ON A SHAFT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN A PLAYER'S ABILITY? SHAFTS, CUES, TABLES, WHATEVER, HAVE NO BEARING ON WHETHER THE PLAYER REALLY IS OR NOT AN ACCOMPLISHED PLAYER. EQUIPMENT DOES NOT POCKET BALLS. PLAYERS DO. REACHING ONE'S FULL POTENTIAL IN THIS GAME OF POOL IS TOTALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE EXTENT OF KNOWLEDGE THE PLAYER HAS. ALMOST UNIVERSALLY, THE RECREATIONAL PLAYER IS OPERATING WITH A BADLY FLAWED METHOD OF AIMING,THAT IS NOT ACCURATE AND CONSISTENT ON EVERY SHOT. UNLESS PLAYERS ACQUIRE AN AIMING METHOD THAT REALLY DOES THE JOB, THEY WILL NEVER REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. IN FACT, THEY WILL NEVER GET ANYWHERE CLOSE TO PLAYING WELL, BY THE VERY FACT THAT THEY PLAY WITH BADLY FLAWED METHODS. IT IS A NO-WIN PROPOSITION

WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[drivermaker]

I am well aware of that. Currently I play with a Bill McDaniel cue. They have very high quailty shafts. I switched from an old Meucci (no dot) because the cue was getting fairly old and I wanted a newer cue. The new Meucci (or red dot) cue I purchased just did not seem to not be of the same quality. I am sure that the "dots" make no difference in the quality. However, some shafts are cheaper made than others. I was just wondering if the black dots are of higher quality because they are laminated wood. I just thought this might be Bob's answer to all of the complaints about the red dots because they just seem to be cheaply made. I am well aware that the quality of play is not solely dependant on the cue. However, I am also aware that some shafts provide better feedback to the player than others. I claim to be no pro but I do believe that I am quite knowledgable about some of the generalities of the game. Especially concerning the quality of feeback given from cue shafts. In tournament play I have beat players such as Charlie "Hillbilly" Bryant and World Bank Pool Champion Larry Price.

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O.K. Anthony, I'll tell you what I've come up with. I inherited an Original Meucci, circa 1981, when my best friend died a little over 3 years ago and it had the original shaft. The shaft had a slight warp from the way he stored it over 20 years, but it still felt solid as did the entire cue. I ordered a Red Dot and hated it. The shaft was very light and it never felt right on the cue like the original shaft. Subsequently, I bought a new MTC-3 and it came with the black dot shaft and that felt very good and performed well. It was the first version and Meucci was later trading them out if you sent it back for their newest version, so I did. The new black dot felt super. I ordered a few more in varying weights. The black dot is a heavier shaft than most which I like because it will give your cue more forward balance. If you don't like forward balance, it's not for you. You would think I learned my lesson with the red dots, but recently I ordered two more but made absolutely certain that they found the heaviest ones they could, which was 4.2 oz. and these feel really super. They're ramrod straight and give good feedback. So, bottom line is they're both good. Just make damn sure you get a weight that you like that matches up good with your cue and what you like to feel. Have someone hand pick the shafts and test for straightness also in addition to weight. There have been some problems with inconsistencies.