Digicue Blue. Guys are Afraid to Know?

Bobkitty

Bobkitty

I said: "Here kitty, kitty". Got this frown.
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This stroke device is amazing. But, why won't you guys buy it and see how your stroke holds up? Pool players would rather spend $2,000 on a new cue stick thinking it will help their game but spending $150 on a device that might reveal their stroke problems... no way.
I've fixed the "Tip Steer" with a change in my stance but the "follow through" is a 6.0. I can not get it higher so far. The "follow through" measures acceleration of the cue stick through the cue ball. My teacher pegs it in the 10's every time so I know it's my stroke. My "straightness" will always be red because I use a pendulum stroke. Must be straight through piston to get this higher so I don't care about that parameter.
Come on and get one. Let's see how your stroke stands.
 

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Not afraid of anything. Just don't play enough(for enough) to worry about it. I'd rather spend the $$ on pool time. At my joint 150bux is about 40hrs at the day-rate. Cool gizmo but not for me.
 
garczar said:
Not afraid of anything. Just don't play enough(for enough) to worry about it. I'd rather spend the $$ on pool time. At my joint 150bux is about 40hrs at the day-rate. Cool gizmo but not for me.
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I understand if you are happy with your stroke. But for the ones that want to improve this device is a good one. I think it's hard to play great pool without a great stroke. Which must come first.
 
Do you think the Digicue would make Bustie a better player?
...I think it would make him worse
 
pt109 said:
Do you think the Digicue would make Bustie a better player?
...I think it would make him worse
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Why do you think it would make him worse?

His practice strokes are strange but he gets through the cue ball as good as anybody. I would be surprised if his stroke wasn't dead straight.

The thing is most players do not believe their strokes have as many flaws as they do. It is basically denial.

I worked hard with the digicue for a long time to get my stroke where I wanted it.

The most common flaw is tip steer due to poor alignment with players I let try it. They can stroke straight but are on the wrong line to start with. Get them on the correct line and the problem takes care of itself.
 
nine_ball6970 said:
Why do you think it would make him worse?

His practice strokes are strange but he gets through the cue ball as good as anybody. I would be surprised if his stroke wasn't dead straight.

The thing is most players do not believe their strokes have as many flaws as they do. It is basically denial.

I worked hard with the digicue for a long time to get my stroke where I wanted it.

The most common flaw is tip steer due to poor alignment with players I let try it. They can stroke straight but are on the wrong line to start with. Get them on the correct line and the problem takes care of itself.
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I think the Digicue would be a great trainer for a budding talent.....
...by the time you get to world class, you have to forget it....
...winning pool is too complicated to get hung up on mechanics.

That young player will have an advantage if it becomes ingrained in his stroke....
....but Digicue is training wheels....don't let it tell you what to do under heat.
 
pt109 said:
I think the Digicue would be a great trainer for a budding talent.....
...by the time you get to world class, you have to forget it....
...winning pool is too complicated to get hung up on mechanics.

That young player will have an advantage if it becomes ingrained in his stroke....
....but Digicue is training wheels....don't let it tell you what to do under heat.
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Sure it is "training wheels". But if you look at a golf driving range, you'll find lots of swing reminders that can not be used in play. This applies even for the pros. Direction arow sticks, towel under the left arm pit, wrist set device, etc. All devices to help train the golf swing. Why not for pool strokes before we play?
 
Digicue Is Innovative & Offers Meaningful Data.

Digicue imparts great information for the developing player & is very useful for a instructor to use when attempting to improve students' stroke execution on a variety of different type shots. The metrical data allows a instructor to better evaluate the visual assessment of your stroke & the results of any tweaks or outright changes recommended to help improve your overall play. The data by itself does not allow you to see what you are doing wrong or what you should do to eliminate activating Digicue. You must figure that out yourself and that's basically trial & error. More advanced, stronger players often ask a pal to watch their stroke to see if they notice anything when trying to execute a specific type of shot.That's why my Apple phone is my training tool.

Screw the data if I can just watch myself play. I can see what I am doing right or wrong and only I know where I intended the cue ball to come to rest after pocketing the ball sans any Digicue. The device can activate on and off or all the time but as long as you are pocketing balls, and you can since the pockets are twice as wide as the object balls, imperfect is still very acceptable. I'm focued entirely on results whenever I play pool and nothing else.

How many players own, tested, or have tried Digicue? Well, whether the number is 100 or 1,000, it is a fact players pocketed balls with Digicue activating and the object ball still dropped. Digicue can become a needless distraction for intense players since they're focused a lot more on stroke speed and they really don't care whether Digicue activates as long as the shot drops. Let me conclude by simply saying players who are unhappy with their stroke or struggle to just run a table in a game of 9 or 10 ball, Digicue is a great tool to use to get better. The folks I play with are easily capable of running more than just a single rack in either game. When it doesn't happen, it's due to player misjudgement or a accidental stroke mistake that can occasionally occur.
 
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Prairie dog said:
Sure it is "training wheels". But if you look at a golf driving range, you'll find lots of swing reminders that can not be used in play. This applies even for the pros. Direction arow sticks, towel under the left arm pit, wrist set device, etc. All devices to help train the golf swing. Why not for pool strokes before we play?
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OK. OK. Since you asked. Give me a minute.... OK.


Top 10 Reasons Not To Use A Stroke Trainer

10. The bar maids think it's an electronic sex toy.

9. People are complaining about all the weird noises coming from your table.

8. It covers up all the pretty inlays on the butt of your cue.

7. Mosconi ran 526 without one.

6. Efren would fail miserably trying to use it.

5. You can't use your cue extension with it.

4. It changes the balance of your cue and you unconsciously change your PSR.

3. It might make your stroke worse.

2. Using it only makes you good at using it.

And the number one reason:

1. A Coke bottle is cheaper.

Lou Figueroa
 
DigiCue Blue Pool Stroke Training Device

lfigueroa said:
And the number one reason:
1. A Coke bottle is cheaper.
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Lou, no offense, but I need the coke bottle line to setup my next shot. :)

After spending the last year practicing about 5 days a week at a long standing pool hall, I've heard some of the stupidest things and this one is a favorite. I'm a DigiCue Blue owner and when people see my phone on the table they start asking questions.. and then they say it.. "Just use a bottle". I mean seriously? I have this high tech measuring device attached to the end of my cue with over 4 different levels of stroke measurement on more then half a dozen stroke fundamentals and you want me to use a bottle. Really? I get all those stroke results not every time I finish a beer and play with the bottle, but on every shot I take. If I don't stroke in a way that meets my settings it lets me know with a vibration and I can see what it found. On every shot I take.

Let's face it. The beer bottle is just a good way to help your date with her stroke and send her an extra message at the same time. :D

At the same time from what I've seen over the last year there is a small percentage of people in billiards that are going to support or create a product that could improve another persons game and increase the possibility of somebody else winning which seems to be the nature of the community. Which is odd considering how much fresh money they are missing.. but that's another thread.

So why are they afraid of it. Their "talk" and game can now be tested with high tech accuracy. This is a complete "computerized" exam of their stroke and they could quickly go from pool pro to the guy that needs to work on his stroke and might not be as good as they say.

If you practice and work on it, the DigiCue is a game changer and especially if you don't have the time to hit a million balls.

Just my 2 cent's and not a reflection on anyone particular.
 
Balls said:
Lou, no offense, but I need the coke bottle line to setup my next shot. :)

After spending the last year practicing about 5 days a week at a long standing pool hall, I've heard some of the stupidest things and this one is a favorite. I'm a DigiCue Blue owner and when people see my phone on the table they start asking questions.. and then they say it.. "Just use a bottle". I mean seriously? I have this high tech measuring device attached to the end of my cue with over 4 different levels of stroke measurement on more then half a dozen stroke fundamentals and you want me to use a bottle. Really? I get all those stroke results not every time I finish a beer and play with the bottle, but on every shot I take. If I don't stroke in a way that meets my settings it lets me know with a vibration and I can see what it found. On every shot I take.

Let's face it. The beer bottle is just a good way to help your date with her stroke and send her an extra message at the same time. :D

At the same time from what I've seen over the last year there is a small percentage of people in billiards that are going to support or create a product that could improve another persons game and increase the possibility of somebody else winning which seems to be the nature of the community. Which is odd considering how much fresh money they are missing.. but that's another thread.

So why are they afraid of it. Their "talk" and game can now be tested with high tech accuracy. This is a complete "computerized" exam of their stroke and they could quickly go from pool pro to the guy that needs to work on his stroke and might not be as good as they say.

If you practice and work on it, the DigiCue is a game changer and especially if you don't have the time to hit a million balls.

Just my 2 cent's and not a reflection on anyone particular.
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Good post. I think we all know anyone that can afford the Digicue Blue and doesn't buy one, they do NOT want the digital accurate critique on their stroke. Simple as that. Their stroke is fantastic and they want to leave it like that (in their head).
 
Balls said:
Lou, no offense, but I need the coke bottle line to setup my next shot. :)

After spending the last year practicing about 5 days a week at a long standing pool hall, I've heard some of the stupidest things and this one is a favorite. I'm a DigiCue Blue owner and when people see my phone on the table they start asking questions.. and then they say it.. "Just use a bottle". I mean seriously? I have this high tech measuring device attached to the end of my cue with over 4 different levels of stroke measurement on more then half a dozen stroke fundamentals and you want me to use a bottle. Really? I get all those stroke results not every time I finish a beer and play with the bottle, but on every shot I take. If I don't stroke in a way that meets my settings it lets me know with a vibration and I can see what it found. On every shot I take.

Let's face it. The beer bottle is just a good way to help your date with her stroke and send her an extra message at the same time. :D

At the same time from what I've seen over the last year there is a small percentage of people in billiards that are going to support or create a product that could improve another persons game and increase the possibility of somebody else winning which seems to be the nature of the community. Which is odd considering how much fresh money they are missing.. but that's another thread.

So why are they afraid of it. Their "talk" and game can now be tested with high tech accuracy. This is a complete "computerized" exam of their stroke and they could quickly go from pool pro to the guy that needs to work on his stroke and might not be as good as they say.

If you practice and work on it, the DigiCue is a game changer and especially if you don't have the time to hit a million balls.

Just my 2 cent's and not a reflection on anyone particular.
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Its not needed. Its a gimmick to separate your cash from your wallet.

Whether you use a coke bottle, shoot off the spot, cover the line of the rail cloth and the wood etc etc etc, there are ton of ways to practice and get immediate feedback without a "high tech measuring device". One of the best is shooting long, straight in stop shots. But apparently thats not as cool as owning the latest and greatest.

When people dont know what they dont know, its much easier to baffle them with bullshit and sell them things they dont actually need.

But there are plenty of guys who think they can buy a game. Some think its a cue stick, others think its electronic gadgetry. Oddly none of them seem to think about trying to understand what needs to happen for a shot to be successful, and practicing that.

But then again, its now 2019 and people would much rather have gadgets than common sense. :thumbup:
 
RiverCity said:
When people dont know what they dont know, its much easier to baffle them with bullshit and sell them things they dont actually need.

. :thumbup:
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Prime example of someone that does NOT want to know the accurate digital device's critique of his stroke. Could cause worry. We are in 2019 and accurate electronic gadgets can tell us a lot and this one does. .
 
Prairie dog said:
Prime example of someone that does NOT want to know the accurate digital device's critique of his stroke. Could cause worry. We are in 2019 and accurate electronic gadgets can tell us a lot and this one does. .
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Im in Portland, if you would like to get together and play some, Ill GLADLY show you why its horseshit.

Just please bring as much as you can carry! :thumbup:
 
RiverCity said:
Im in Portland, if you would like to get together and play some, Ill GLADLY show you why its horseshit.

Just please bring as much as you can carry! :thumbup:
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No one cares about your stroke or how you play. This thread is about a device that can help almost anyone's stroke.
 
Balls said:
Lou, no offense, but I need the coke bottle line to setup my next shot. :)

After spending the last year practicing about 5 days a week at a long standing pool hall, I've heard some of the stupidest things and this one is a favorite. I'm a DigiCue Blue owner and when people see my phone on the table they start asking questions.. and then they say it.. "Just use a bottle". I mean seriously? I have this high tech measuring device attached to the end of my cue with over 4 different levels of stroke measurement on more then half a dozen stroke fundamentals and you want me to use a bottle. Really? I get all those stroke results not every time I finish a beer and play with the bottle, but on every shot I take. If I don't stroke in a way that meets my settings it lets me know with a vibration and I can see what it found. On every shot I take.

Let's face it. The beer bottle is just a good way to help your date with her stroke and send her an extra message at the same time. :D

At the same time from what I've seen over the last year there is a small percentage of people in billiards that are going to support or create a product that could improve another persons game and increase the possibility of somebody else winning which seems to be the nature of the community. Which is odd considering how much fresh money they are missing.. but that's another thread.

So why are they afraid of it. Their "talk" and game can now be tested with high tech accuracy. This is a complete "computerized" exam of their stroke and they could quickly go from pool pro to the guy that needs to work on his stroke and might not be as good as they say.

If you practice and work on it, the DigiCue is a game changer and especially if you don't have the time to hit a million balls.

Just my 2 cent's and not a reflection on anyone particular.
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I don't think anyone is afraid of it.

But I do think many people question its value. Being able to get good results from it just means you are eventually able to make it give you good results. It does not mean that you will pocket more balls or control the CB better. That's where the disconnect lies.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Prairie dog said:
Good post. I think we all know anyone that can afford the Digicue Blue and doesn't buy one, they do NOT want the digital accurate critique on their stroke. Simple as that. Their stroke is fantastic and they want to leave it like that (in their head).
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Is there any proof, of any kind, that getting good feedback from this device produces higher runs?

Better CB accuracy? More accurate ball pocketing?

A bump in you FargoRate or APA rating?

Anything beyond anecdotal accounts?

Lou Figueroa
 
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Aren't you the guy who was all in on a projector system for pool tables?

Prairie dog said:
Good post. I think we all know anyone that can afford the Digicue Blue and doesn't buy one, they do NOT want the digital accurate critique on their stroke. Simple as that. Their stroke is fantastic and they want to leave it like that (in their head).
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