Do old Meucci cues play better than the new Meucci’s?

SmoothStroke said:
I could be wrong but I think most of the shafts in that era had the long ferrule and whippy shaft.
Every Meucci I remember had those characteristics until I hit with the red and black dot shafts that felt dead to me.
I’m not a Meucci expert.

I was using a Heubler, Palmer, and Paradise Titleist back then.
We bought, sold, and traded cues like baseball cards.
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You are absolutely correct. The long taper and ferrules were pretty much the calling card of Meucci's shafts. I ordered a 95-10 with a 12.5mm shaft back in '96 and it was my playing cue for several years. I'm not sure how much I'd like how it plays compared to my current Nitti, but I'd bet I could adjust to it pretty quickly. I mean, it played fine. I just prefer a stiffer shaft taper with a little more feedback now.
 
Rusty in Montana said:
I own a old Meucci that hits a ball very well both shafts are as straight as the day is long , I still use it from time to time even if I prefer a larger diameter shaft than what it has .

To compare it to a new Meucci cue I can't help with that one .
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I find myself always going back to my bigger shafts. 13, 13.5 and a 14mm Kielwood I absolutely love!!😍
 
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Mensabum said:
Don't forget the Joss guys and Scruggs guys!!😉
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Interesting you say this as when I read the post you quoted the first thought that came to me was that the guys around Maryland tended to all play these cues or the number other cue makers around the Maryland area and not so much the production line cues like Meucci or McDermott. Sadly by the 80’s Joss had become a production line cue as well.
 
Frosty said:
Interesting you say this as when I read the post you quoted the first thought that came to me was that the guys around Maryland tended to all play these cues or the number other cue makers around the Maryland area and not so much the production line cues like Meucci or McDermott. Sadly by the 80’s Joss had become a production line cue as well.
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They still made customs, so did Meucci and McDermott.

Of course, once the cue maker himself is gone, his customs are done, but production goes on.

The line between custom maker and production can be blurry anyway. Many highly regarded makers have had catalogs and assistants. How many assistants or employees must there be, or how big must their catalog be before they are considered no longer a custom maker and only a production maker?

Why is it sad? At least they are still around.

Some years ago I had settled on a custom designed cue with Dan Janes using a forearm and butt sleeve I was providing. I failed to pull the trigger, now he's gone. That's sad for me. But I still have the parts and I could still see if Joss will build the cue with Stephen signing it.
 
Rack’em said:
I've always liked Meucci's. But I didn't like that they laminated their wraps. Which defeats the purpose of having a wrap on a cue to begin with.
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Well, it maintains the proportions if you like the look but don't want a wrap. For some, the purpose would be aesthetics.

Yes, their standard was to finish over the wrap, but you could order a cue without the finish over the wrap. So, not a problem if you wanted one.

I felt the same way about the finish over wrap, but I never ordered one without it because I never wanted a Meucci. I had played with a few and didn't like them, and it wasn't based on the finish over wrap issue.
 
Frosty said:
Interesting you say this as when I read the post you quoted the first thought that came to me was that the guys around Maryland tended to all play these cues or the number other cue makers around the Maryland area and not so much the production line cues like Meucci or McDermott. Sadly by the 80’s Joss had become a production line cue as well.
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Why use the word 'sadly'??? For a cue to be good does it have to be made by some troll in a cave using only hand tools? Seen their shop? Yes they use CNC and other modern tools but its not really what i'd call a 'production line' like a auto plant. BTW, they've always offered 'hand-made' models if you wanted to pay the extra. Seen a few and they were as nice as any other 'troll-made custom'.
 
Chopdoc said:
They still made customs, so did Meucci and McDermott.

Of course, once the cue maker himself is gone, his customs are done, but production goes on.

The line between custom maker and production can be blurry anyway. Many highly regarded makers have had catalogs and assistants. How many assistants or employees must there be, or how big must their catalog be before they are considered no longer a custom maker and only a production maker?

Why is it sad? At least they are still around.

Some years ago I had settled on a custom designed cue with Dan Janes using a forearm and butt sleeve I was providing. I failed to pull the trigger, now he's gone. That's sad for me. But I still have the parts and I could still see if Joss will build the cue with Stephen signing it.
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garczar said:
Why use the word 'sadly'??? For a cue to be good does it have to be made by some troll in a cave using only hand tools? Seen their shop? Yes they use CNC and other modern tools but its not really what i'd call a 'production line' like an auto plant. BTW, they've always offered 'hand-made' models if you wanted to pay the extra. Seen a few and they were as nice as any other 'troll-made custom'.
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It appears that both of you have misconstrued my use of the word “sadly”, or perhaps I didn’t express myself sufficiently on why it evokes that feeling for me. I was lucky enough to grow up in that area, in the era that Joss originally started producing cues. The hall I played in as a teen sold them, it was one of my first cues. As a few years passed Bill Stroud left and then Scruggs left a few years later and while Dan still made some customs, he was more focused on production cues. I didn’t mean to imply that there’s anything wrong with that, it was just sort of an end to an era in my mind as there was just something special about the cues coming out of that shop in the beginning. No harm or foul was intended by my initial post.
 
Frosty said:
It appears that both of you have misconstrued my use of the word “sadly”, or perhaps I didn’t express myself sufficiently on why it evokes that feeling for me. I was lucky enough to grow up in that area, in the era that Joss originally started producing cues. The hall I played in as a teen sold them, it was one of my first cues. As a few years passed Bill Stroud left and then Scruggs left a few years later and while Dan still made some customs, he was more focused on production cues. I didn’t mean to imply that there’s anything wrong with that, it was just sort of an end to an era in my mind as there was just something special about the cues coming out of that shop in the beginning. No harm or foul was intended by my initial post.
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I get it.
I am nostalgic for the old days as well.

Sad is definitely one way to put it.

As I said, I am also glad the business is still around. It would me more sad if they were gone...or went to imports.
 
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