Do the Aramith twins juice a cue ball???

[tucson9ball]

As a mid level player at best, my draw stroke is still my weakest stroke to execute consistently. I had my all time high run of 52 last week, so I won't be joining the tour any time soon. :wink:

Do players with a very high skill level still experience the fall off in draw when playing on, say your local public tables, which aren't maintained to a high level?

The reason I ask, is that many YouTube videos show players demonstrating the draw technique, and if the cloth condition is any indicator of the condition of the balls, then I've got a long upward road to perfecting my draw shot under less than stellar conditions.

I'm just confused by how easily I can draw after cleaning the cue ball, but I want it to be a result of my skill and not from any extraneous factors...

Perhaps a more specific example is needed. If I run a line of balls from side pocket to side pocket, and shoot from behind the head spot, should drawing the cue ball to rebound off of the head rail be almost an automatically make-able shot for the better player regardless of table and or ball conditions???? :shrug:

How much draw you can put on the Q ball is definitely a result of the equipment. If the cloth is bran new, you can drawthe Q ball a mile without trying. If the cloth is old and dirty, you may be lucky to draw it 5ft.
Clean balls will help your draw a bit, but the cleaner should be wiped off completely. This overdraw effect shouldn't last long.
If you play in tournaments, try to immitate the tournament conditions. Do they play on old cloth, dirty balls? If so, you don't want to play on pristine cloth with very clean balls. It is a different world when playing on a different table. JMHO

 

[Dopc]

No, you nailed it! I really appreciate your well thought out and informative responses!

Fantastic, I'm glad to be of assistance along your journey as well as being able to put the thoughts and actions to words you could translate. Sometimes we all just need a little hint, or nudge to get us rolling down the right track. Good luck on your journey and don't forget, it's truly all about having fun. I've had fun along my journey, and continue to everyday I play and progress just a little more.
Life is all about karma and paying it forward, a dollar comes and goes, knowledge and a friend, can last a lifetime!

Dopc.

 

[Bob 14:1]

knowledge and a friend, can last a lifetime!

Dopc.

I concur wholeheartedly! You've done well on both counts, my friend! Good luck to Urban Myer and the Buckeyes this season from a 46 year Clevelander. He's about as good as they get, and most importantly really cares about the kids. Pre season rankings have 'em right behind Bama.

My baby girl got her undergrad at Florida during the Tebow era. We sure miss 'em both, but now having moved to Denver, I'm relegated to rooting for the abominable CU Buffaloes.

Now that my little girl has her PhD., it's all I can do to understand her.

At 66, my fun comes from being able to pump air for another rack. After a successful invetro, my daughter is blessing me with a grandchild in February. Hopefully I can someday have my grand child beat the crap out of me on the pool table!!!

 

[junkbond]

I would never put a cueball in my juice, then there's no room for Vodka. When I put juice on my cueball it skids more often so I find that bad as well.

I find that when I put the vodka in me, I skid much more than normal. :grin:

 

[Fatboy]

How much draw you can put on the Q ball is definitely a result of the equipment. If the cloth is bran new, you can drawthe Q ball a mile without trying. If the cloth is old and dirty, you may be lucky to draw it 5ft.
Clean balls will help your draw a bit, but the cleaner should be wiped off completely. This overdraw effect shouldn't last long.

your right, and accordingly the better player (in most cases) will be able to get more action on the CB all things being equal. Who ever has the best stoke/power will get the best results and most of the time thats the stronger player, once in a while you will get a player who can draw the rock better than Shane, that cant beat shane-but thats rare.

 

[firemankc]

I use a diamond ball clean and mcguires car wax and I have noticed the same effect. With a strong stroke it looks like the ball peels and for a moment then races ove a table and a half. Note to everyone. Clean your balls daily!

I use the DBC and Mcguires also with the same result.