Do You have a Talent?

Is that you Earl?

etimmons said:
Who are you? I have known Tony since he was a baby....

I was wondering it was too. If he beats Tony on a Regular basis he must be able to play. I have known Tony a long time too. Since somewhere in the 80's. Sam
 
satman said:
Do you know me? I'm east of the Mississippi too. Not trying to start something. I just wonder if you really do know all the A+ players.


I think Roll offs problem is he see's A players as the pro players on tv, where most of us see A players as the strongest players in our own states or regions.

there are differences in the ratings in every region I think. For instance in muncie a c or b player is still pretty strong most of the time, at least the ones in the c/b tournaments..
 
Roll-Off said:
The fact is, there's a lot of players out there who think they are A players when they aren't. There's nine levels of pool, C to A including + and -. When idiots, like Last Two, say there's such a thing as A+++ or whatever, I just laugh. Evidently, he never got A's in school because an A+ is 100%. That is the very best and Efren is an A+. Everyone else falls below this level. In Last Two's case, a D or F category should be recognized.

Nowhere did I say anything about multiple plus signs (like A+++). I said A-, A, A+, Shortstop, Pro, and Top Pro. Learn some reading comprehension you idiot. By the way, I am a straight A student and have been a full time college student for the last 3 years. If you'd like, I could teach you how to read. Let me know if you're interested. :p
 
satman said:
I was wondering it was too. If he beats Tony on a Regular basis he must be able to play. I have known Tony a long time too. Since somewhere in the 80's. Sam
That was a slam on me because he knew that Tony knocked me out of the U.S. Open last year. I doubt he can play at all but I offered him the 8 even if he does beat Tony.
 
rackmsuckr said:
It must be where you come from. In our area, ratings are Pro, A, B, and C. With pluses and minuses. I have never heard of shortstop before. And the Canadians have their own rating system.

Linda

Yep here's it goes like this.

C , B , A , AA , AAA , Semi-Pro , Pro.
 
I think what you are getting at Bazarus, is that you would like to be better. In my own case, I have lost the real burning desire that I found at age 20 to play, and tried to ignite it after year long hiatus about 4-5 times. Reason being, that I have a job, and a business to run. Family, or having one is much more important to me than running around the country trying to bust someone for everyone else's folklore. That money won't stay in your pocket anyhow. For me now, I do want to improve when winter time hits, because I have a nice 3-4 month window that I can run around and play. That type of routine doesn't make room for much improvement, especially since I am trying to tune myself up for the first 2-3 weeks. When I look at what the top money earnings are for 2005(although they exclude a lot of gambling scores, and small tourneys), I get disgusted for the people out there with so much talent, chasing a rainbow. My very good friend, and one who I tried to emulate when I started playing told me that if I wanted it bad enough, I should sell everything that I have(EVERYTHING), and get out there on the road. Well I wasn't willing to do that. However, I play ok sometimes, and I like seeing my friends from all over the country that I have met or played. Didn't mean to turn the thread into ME ME ME, but I am just relaying my own thoughts. You need to envelop yourself with great players to get better. You need to play all day in the poolroom, and bust every person willing to gamble with you, then put it all up with a top player. When he busts you, you need to go home, think of what you need to do, and do it again the next day. That's how you get good. Good luck!
 
Good post.

Josh Palmer said:
I think what you are getting at Bazarus, is that you would like to be better. In my own case, I have lost the real burning desire that I found at age 20 to play, and tried to ignite it after year long hiatus about 4-5 times. Reason being, that I have a job, and a business to run. Family, or having one is much more important to me than running around the country trying to bust someone for everyone else's folklore. That money won't stay in your pocket anyhow. For me now, I do want to improve when winter time hits, because I have a nice 3-4 month window that I can run around and play. That type of routine doesn't make room for much improvement, especially since I am trying to tune myself up for the first 2-3 weeks. When I look at what the top money earnings are for 2005(although they exclude a lot of gambling scores, and small tourneys), I get disgusted for the people out there with so much talent, chasing a rainbow. My very good friend, and one who I tried to emulate when I started playing told me that if I wanted it bad enough, I should sell everything that I have(EVERYTHING), and get out there on the road. Well I wasn't willing to do that. However, I play ok sometimes, and I like seeing my friends from all over the country that I have met or played. Didn't mean to turn the thread into ME ME ME, but I am just relaying my own thoughts. You need to envelop yourself with great players to get better. You need to play all day in the poolroom, and bust every person willing to gamble with you, then put it all up with a top player. When he busts you, you need to go home, think of what you need to do, and do it again the next day. That's how you get good. Good luck!

You get back what you put in. The desire to win is the hardest part to develope. There was a guy who played here in the late 70's early 80's, who would bet what he had in his pocket the first game. I was taught to have at least 10 barrels. He loved that pressure of having to win every game, and played to win every game no matter what the bet. The first time I actually spoke with him, he came in a small bar close to my house with Richie Ambrose, trying to hustle $5-$10 8-ball. What a way to live.
I too, focused my efforts on family and work, but I play year round and have a love for the game that helps me keep from getting the burnout most people suffer. You're a product of your environment, hang with the good players, play with the good players, and don't be afraid to ask questions. The worst thing that will happen is someone will tell no, they don't help people for free. Sam
 
satman said:
You get back what you put in. The desire to win is the hardest part to develope. There was a guy who played here in the late 70's early 80's, who would bet what he had in his pocket the first game. I was taught to have at least 10 barrels. He loved that pressure of having to win every game, and played to win every game no matter what the bet. The first time I actually spoke with him, he came in a small bar close to my house with Richie Ambrose, trying to hustle $5-$10 8-ball. What a way to live.
I too, focused my efforts on family and work, but I play year round and have a love for the game that helps me keep from getting the burnout most people suffer. You're a product of your environment, hang with the good players, play with the good players, and don't be afraid to ask questions. The worst thing that will happen is someone will tell no, they don't help people for free. Sam

Good post here Satman. I'm pretty much in the same spot as you are. I run my own buisness which takes a lots of time, but I don't have my own familly yet, so am safe for now ;)
Pool is one of those sports that requires many years to develop and that is why lost of players quit due to lack of desire or other reasons. As for me I'm going to play as long as I can and with a little bit of luck and optimism I may get where I want to.
 
Roll-Off said:
Originally Posted by Roll-Off
The fact is, there's a lot of players out there who think they are A players when they aren't. There's nine levels of pool, C to A including + and -. When idiots, like Last Two, say there's such a thing as A+++ or whatever, I just laugh. Evidently, he never got A's in school because an A+ is 100%. That is the very best and Efren is an A+. Everyone else falls below this level. In Last Two's case, a D or F category should be recognized. :p

Well, your point is taken however when playing in ranked tournaments they typically do this for the very reason to group players together without using numerical ratings system. Uniquely enough in pool there are so many levels of players within an A grouping alone. So to avoid having a Z player most have opted for simple A, B, C and D.

In pool an A does not equate to the top players as in school. It is merely a grouping of A players. Where I play we have C, D, B, B+, A, A+, Super A and pro.

So as Last Two stated, having an A+++ is valid.
 
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