do you prefer ivory or stainless steel joint?

[duke@neo.rr.com]

haha

What about the ivory that comes from elephants that die of natural causes? Are elephants immortal unless shot by poachers? Is all ivory from "evil" sources? Do you eat meat? Have you ever had a pet, gotten on a horse, or otherwise infringed on an animals natural habitat?

Give me a break you self-important, pompus asshole!

I too am LMAO about that. anyways, I never played with an IVORY ferrule, but have played with a solid s/s joint w/ no wood to wood contact whatsoever and thought it played horribly hard (real firm). I'll take an ivory joint over a solid s/s joint any day. I prefer the sleeved s/s over wood joints w/ 3/8x10 pin wood to wood joint I'm used to getting from my cuemaker. I like the hit SOOO much better

 

[Snapshot9]

I prefer ...

a SS joint over anything else..... for quality, for solidness, for less maintenance, for the hit.

 

[classiccues]

I prefer the ivory "H" style joint over any other.

Joe

 

[gnaroz]

The only Ivory jointed cue I ever hit with was a Gus Szamboti Rosewood on Rosewood and it played Unreal but I am not sure that the joint had anything to do with it

It had an Ivory Butt Cap too I think that made the difference

 

[robertno1pool]

Joint Type

Ivory - flat faced or very thick sleeved (very thin sleeved does not qualify the same). Piloted joint does not matter much. The number and orientation of fully engaged threads does.

 

[danlamb]

go with the ivory

Ivory flat faced with 3/8 X 11 pin.NOW SWEET IT IS!!!!!!!!!

 

[jkmarshall_cues]

Hey Stroke,

With a license plate like your bike avatar has, why are you so dead against using elephant ivory?? You use oil products, right?? That's nothing but soup left over from dead dinosaurs. Oh my GOD,, Stroke is using dead dinosaurs!!! Fanatics are just un-educated uninformed people unwilling to seek knowledge and truth.
John

 

[ridewiththewind]

I prefer the ivory "H" style joint over any other.

Joe

Can you explain this type joint to me, please? I know I have a piloted Ivory joint, (I guess I'm hellbound), but am admittedly clueless as to the specs beyond pin size.

Thanks!
Lisa

 

[zeeder]

Can you explain this type joint to me, please? I know I have a piloted Ivory joint, (I guess I'm hellbound), but am admittedly clueless as to the specs beyond pin size.

Thanks!
Lisa

Your piloted ivory joint is what he is talking about. the fact that the ivory goes all the way through in the center and the bottom walls are threaded for the tennon and the top wall is for the pilot.

 

[ridewiththewind]

Your piloted ivory joint is what he is talking about. the fact that the ivory goes all the way through in the center and the bottom walls are threaded for the tennon and the top wall is for the pilot.

Cooool. Thanks, Zack. I had no clue. Now I know.

Lisa

 

[staygoldponyboy]

Ivory

Flatface Ivory joint-3/8 10 pin -Ivory Ferrules- Hits like butter to me

 

[Jimmy M.]

Since I've come to the conclusion that I'll probably never play with a stainless steel joint again, and I currently play with an ivory joint, I'll say ivory.

 

[stroke]

Other substances can create the same feel as ivory. They use ivory on cues for braging rights and so that they can charge out the wazoo for it. It's like having a fur coat. Big deal. It amazes me how few people there are who will make even a small sacrifce to stop the needless suffering of some of the most amazing creatures on earth. This self-centered attitude will eventually destroy our planet.

 

[skins]

I have cues with all three types of ivory joints, flat-faced (capped), piloted, and sleeved. My favorite is the capped joint. Has a lot of feedback. A sleeved joint will hit like the material it is sleeved over, I don't think that is used for anything besides looks. Piloted seems like a little softer hit than capped.

you need to try a tascarella with his sleeved ivory joint. it's sleeved over stainless. i know you said the sleeved plays like the material it's sleeved over but not pete's cues. he's mastered this type work. the way he does it is unique to other methods and does not take away from the "bone" type hit. those cues play just like piloted ivory does with a significantly lower chance of future damage to the joint from age and "power" stroking.

 

[JoeyInCali]

you need to try a tascarella with his sleeved ivory joint. it's sleeved over stainless. i know you said the sleeved plays like the material it's sleeved over but not pete's cues. he's mastered this type work. the way he does it is unique to other methods and does not take away from the "bone" type hit. those cues play just like piloted ivory does with a significantly lower chance of future damage to the joint from age and "power" stroking.

That is scary.
What if it's a cold day and ivory shrinks a little?
With steel under it, it might crack.

 

[skins]

That is scary.
What if it's a cold day and ivory shrinks a little?
With steel under it, it might crack.

first off when your paying good $$$ for a custom cue you don't expose it the the "extreme" elements for long periods of time. that being said pete has thought through the "normal" actions of most and devised a method that works very well. you also have to remember he lives in New York where the weather conditions change dramaticaly form season to season and i know he has taken this into account.