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Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?
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I will certainly honor your request.
Nice try, John.
Like I said, you're not serious.
You're just trolling for entertainment & another opportunity to advertise your business.
I'm not wasting my time anymore.
I hope things are all well in regards to the business & your personal life too.
Sleep Well.
I am the farthest thing from a troll that a person can be. I just find the nitpicking by you and others to be extremely silly.
I do thank you for the continued opportunity to "advertise". That's a byproduct of the discussion.
Robert Turner said thanks for the lesson. Oh you don't know who he is? That's because he is a local player who is learning CTE and got some advice from me last night. Thanks to the video that Dan linked to I was able to help Robert with the specific questions he had.
Robert doesn't care about what percentage is objective or subjective. He cares about learning the steps and the perceptions and following the instructions.
Thus he learns the practical use of CTE without the science, without the psychology, without the poison.
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What you call ridiculous, happens to be fact that you are ignorant of. Stan offered you a free lesson, all you had to do is show up for it. You refused, so you remain ignorant of the answers to the questions you ask. You have no one but yourself to blame for your ignorance on the subject. You want to twist it and blame everyone else, it's all on you, no one else. No one owes you an answer for any part of it. All you are doing now is trolling the thread. You keep demanding answers when you have no right to demand anything from anyone regarding CTE.
Not even really sure what your problem is Rick. No where on this site www.justcueit.com does it say CTE is 100% objective.
In fact I'd say Stan's site is really low key on the "selling" of CTE/ProOne.
It is called an objective aiming system on the DVD jacket. It is an objective aiming system for the most part. 99% objective in my opinion, enough that saying it's an objective system is correct in both advertising, presentations, demonstrations and any other way Stan wants to say it.
So save the nonsense about false advertising, legal analysis and trying to save players from deception.
No one is being harmed by the language used to describe CTE. Certainly no one's game is being crippled for life.
In fact I'd say Stan's site is really low key on the "selling" of CTE/ProOne.
It is called an objective aiming system on the DVD jacket. It is an objective aiming system for the most part. 99% objective in my opinion, enough that saying it's an objective system is correct in both advertising, presentations, demonstrations and any other way Stan wants to say it.
So save the nonsense about false advertising, legal analysis and trying to save players from deception.
No one is being harmed by the language used to describe CTE. Certainly no one's game is being crippled for life.
Actually Rodney didn't use GB either. He didn't say that he used GB up until now. He was explaining what GB was without saying that he used only that until now.
In 2005 I spent a week with Rodney and picked his brain on a few things. One of them was aiming. I asked him how he aims. At that time he told me that he aimed at portions of the ball as he was taught in Hawaii. He said it was pretty much for a cut to the right he aimed at the left side and for a cut to the left at the right side.
So unless we ask him directly what he has done in any period of his pool playing career we won't know.
The point of the thread however is that a well known professional player is saying in public that he has found a better way to aim and that he personally is seeing the results of that in his own performance against the ghost.
Now, maybe some of you don't understand what the 13 ball ghost is. You rack up 13 balls and run them off in order. In a race to ten you have to do the ten times before you miss ten times. Rodney did it in two hours.
So what we have here is a US Open winner who is saying to the world even with all my success I am willing to try another way and I find it to be better than what I previously used.
If a professional's testimonial and performance report isn't enough to convince people that there is merit then I guess nothing is good enough. However for those of us who already know how powerful CTE is this is just more validation.
I personally don't care if JoeyinCali ever tries it, nor do I care if Duckie ever tries it, or LouF or anyone on here who tries so hard to knock CTE and convince people not to try it. I only care that the readers who want to learn are presented with any and all examples of pros who talk about how they aim and why so that those readers can make informed decisions about what to do with their game. For me the knock only serves as a conversation starter.
Any facebooker can send Rodney a private message on Facebook and simply ask him about CTE. Anyone can talk to Stevie Moore here or on FB or talk to Landon or Phil Burford.
Or you can contact John Schmidt who said all you need to do it hit balls until your fingers bleed. As an amateur shooter looking to improve in the time you have you have the whole spectrum from pure feel hit-a-million-balls to systematic alignment and proof that pros use that whole spectrum as well.
In 2005 I spent a week with Rodney and picked his brain on a few things. One of them was aiming. I asked him how he aims. At that time he told me that he aimed at portions of the ball as he was taught in Hawaii. He said it was pretty much for a cut to the right he aimed at the left side and for a cut to the left at the right side.
So unless we ask him directly what he has done in any period of his pool playing career we won't know.
The point of the thread however is that a well known professional player is saying in public that he has found a better way to aim and that he personally is seeing the results of that in his own performance against the ghost.
Now, maybe some of you don't understand what the 13 ball ghost is. You rack up 13 balls and run them off in order. In a race to ten you have to do the ten times before you miss ten times. Rodney did it in two hours.
So what we have here is a US Open winner who is saying to the world even with all my success I am willing to try another way and I find it to be better than what I previously used.
If a professional's testimonial and performance report isn't enough to convince people that there is merit then I guess nothing is good enough. However for those of us who already know how powerful CTE is this is just more validation.
I personally don't care if JoeyinCali ever tries it, nor do I care if Duckie ever tries it, or LouF or anyone on here who tries so hard to knock CTE and convince people not to try it. I only care that the readers who want to learn are presented with any and all examples of pros who talk about how they aim and why so that those readers can make informed decisions about what to do with their game. For me the knock only serves as a conversation starter.
Any facebooker can send Rodney a private message on Facebook and simply ask him about CTE. Anyone can talk to Stevie Moore here or on FB or talk to Landon or Phil Burford.
Or you can contact John Schmidt who said all you need to do it hit balls until your fingers bleed. As an amateur shooter looking to improve in the time you have you have the whole spectrum from pure feel hit-a-million-balls to systematic alignment and proof that pros use that whole spectrum as well.
"I would like to reassure everyone about my aiming. I use CTE/PRO ONE. No ghost ball. No contact points. I can say that they're had been times where I would go back to those prehistoric aiming techniques. I am way beyond that now. I am an exclusive CTE/PRO ONE'r.
Playing pool subconsciously is what we all strive for. I can reach the zone in a much quicker fashion now since using CTE. When I first began playin pool I had to consciously aim at balls. As I began to get better my flow came n went. Jus like everyone. Once I learned CTE I knew it would eventually free my mind completely of aiming. I play in a sub conscious state much more now. I am actually closer to being shark proof. I say this because before learning CTE, while I was down on the shot I could be easily distracted. I didn't know why. I know now that it was because my eyes were really looking at nothing. But since learning PRO ONE I know exactly what I'm looking at. since my aim wAs subjective my eyes could be easily pulled off line. Now with PRO ONE I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM LOOKING AT WHICH IN TURN GIVES MY BRAIN and eyes the comfort of not being as easily distracted. Which allows me to just focus on stroking straight even though my eyes have been pulled off line by a distraction. CTE/PRO ONE will improve your game much faster and with more confidence than any other method. That's my story n I'm stickin to it.
Stevie"The Blade"Moore
CTE/PRO ONE INSTRUCTOR
www.justcueit.com
Stevietheblade@gmail.com"
Playing pool subconsciously is what we all strive for. I can reach the zone in a much quicker fashion now since using CTE. When I first began playin pool I had to consciously aim at balls. As I began to get better my flow came n went. Jus like everyone. Once I learned CTE I knew it would eventually free my mind completely of aiming. I play in a sub conscious state much more now. I am actually closer to being shark proof. I say this because before learning CTE, while I was down on the shot I could be easily distracted. I didn't know why. I know now that it was because my eyes were really looking at nothing. But since learning PRO ONE I know exactly what I'm looking at. since my aim wAs subjective my eyes could be easily pulled off line. Now with PRO ONE I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM LOOKING AT WHICH IN TURN GIVES MY BRAIN and eyes the comfort of not being as easily distracted. Which allows me to just focus on stroking straight even though my eyes have been pulled off line by a distraction. CTE/PRO ONE will improve your game much faster and with more confidence than any other method. That's my story n I'm stickin to it.
Stevie"The Blade"Moore
CTE/PRO ONE INSTRUCTOR
www.justcueit.com
Stevietheblade@gmail.com"
John, you keep flipflopping . First you said you don't know if Rodney ever used CTE . Then you didn't care and it's irrelevant . That after saying you were going to ask Corey and Rodney .
You just keep flipflopping .
The question was simple . Is Rodney still using CTE or not ?
Ok, he is still using CTE .
Done .
I am actually shocked your memory is pretty bad . You actually forgot Rodney beat the 13*ball ghost using CTE after YOU told us .
"I am familiar with CTE/ProOne and my own system the SEE-SYSTEM.
All I can say is, that both systems throw your game off as long as have not automized them and both systems make you a way more consistent player when you have automized them.
On top, both systems help you to find your personal rythm and pace and help you to keep them during your matches- these 2 points, as well as the pre shot routine that is always identic using these systems are very important pieces of that big puzzle called "THE ZONE"Using ProONE/SEE-SYSTEM helps you to get into the zone more often and to stay in the zone longer as you don't have to think about anything anymore-you just see it and do it!
After having experimented with TOI for around 80 hours I have implemented TOI into my SEE-SYSTEM by creating adjusted "TO-sighting lines" into my SEE-SYSTEM and was able to break and run 8 consecutive racks in 9 ball playing a money game last Wednesday night at my pool club against another player. Ran a five and a six pack some weeks ago - so 8 racks is my personal record
for now (happy)
All depends on the discipline of the playerin my humble opnion!
-Has he got the discipline to understand and learn the system
-has he got the discipline to adjust things until they work in more and more situations (different strokes/different acceleration/different distances/ using deflection or deflection only etc.
-has he got the discipline to work on it-has he got the discipline to "forget what he learned" after a certain time and just doing it
-has he got the discipline to just trust it while playing a match and just doing it while observing his results without evaluating it. Writing down situations when something did not work out as expected and training them the next day
adjusting what needs to be adjusted to work for him.
-has he got the discipline to just enjoy what he is working on- each time he is at the table on his own
just my 2 cents
Ekkes"
All I can say is, that both systems throw your game off as long as have not automized them and both systems make you a way more consistent player when you have automized them.
On top, both systems help you to find your personal rythm and pace and help you to keep them during your matches- these 2 points, as well as the pre shot routine that is always identic using these systems are very important pieces of that big puzzle called "THE ZONE"Using ProONE/SEE-SYSTEM helps you to get into the zone more often and to stay in the zone longer as you don't have to think about anything anymore-you just see it and do it!
After having experimented with TOI for around 80 hours I have implemented TOI into my SEE-SYSTEM by creating adjusted "TO-sighting lines" into my SEE-SYSTEM and was able to break and run 8 consecutive racks in 9 ball playing a money game last Wednesday night at my pool club against another player. Ran a five and a six pack some weeks ago - so 8 racks is my personal record
for now (happy)All depends on the discipline of the playerin my humble opnion!
-Has he got the discipline to understand and learn the system
-has he got the discipline to adjust things until they work in more and more situations (different strokes/different acceleration/different distances/ using deflection or deflection only etc.
-has he got the discipline to work on it-has he got the discipline to "forget what he learned" after a certain time and just doing it
-has he got the discipline to just trust it while playing a match and just doing it while observing his results without evaluating it. Writing down situations when something did not work out as expected and training them the next day
adjusting what needs to be adjusted to work for him.
-has he got the discipline to just enjoy what he is working on- each time he is at the table on his own
just my 2 cents
Ekkes"
Just quoting what was said. And yes, I don't always remember what I exactly said in these endless debates.
Again it's not relevant if Rodney uses CTE or not. Back then he didn't say he is using CTE either, see the quote. He said CTE got him going in the right direction.
You, and others only care what a pro does WHEN it agrees with your worldview. If the pro does something that doesn't agree with it then you discount what they do and say it doesn't matter.
I think John Schmidt is right that it takes a person willing to play until their fingers bleed to get great at pool. And I think he is wrong that aiming systems don't work. But I also think a person can get to world class status without them.
I forget a lot of things but I probably will never forget how I feel about you.
Sure it is .
He was shown a much better system. He beat the 13-ball ghost with it .
You EVEN STARTED A THREAD ABOUT IT .
I bet. You implied you were going to shoot me if we meet after I posted something YOU YOURSELF wrote .
Grow up.
"I just stumbled upon this thread while viewing the forum listings. I have been spending a good amount of time with Rodney in Vegas lately and was there when Stevie was teaching him CTE. They worked on it for awhile over a couple days and Rodney really took to it. He is playing great pool right now and I know CTE along with the many hours of practice he is putting in is really helping out. He is not getting paid to use CTE at all, he believes in it. It did cross my mind to record video on my phone the convo between Stevie and Rodney while he was being taught that so the non believers of systems could see that pros really do use it. Personally I do not use CTE and use the shaft method that Shane uses but remember all these systems are worthless if you do not practice, play, practice some more and make sure all your mechanics are tip top I feel, more than knowing where to aim goes into making the ball." Lenny "fast Lenny" Marshall
Ron Swanson
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Shoot you? With what? My kid's water pistol? I am grown up and not the one carrying on this crusade to stop people from using CTE.
WHY are you participating in this thread?
And you, you don't even play pool and want to tell everyone how to play.
To the knockers:
What upsets me is that despite all the evidence and all the testimonials you persist in denigrating CTE and aiming methods other than GB. You asked for pros who use it, we gave that to you, you asked for titles won by pros who admit to using non-GB aiming systems, we gave you that, you asked for particular shot examples using CTE, we gave you that, you asked for us to show you we can play, you have been given that, you asked for people to show CTE in action, now you have that, you asked for credentialed instructors who teach these aiming methods, we gave you that. What else do you want?
You persist in actively trying to get people to NOT try those methods.
Why?
What upsets me is that despite all the evidence and all the testimonials you persist in denigrating CTE and aiming methods other than GB. You asked for pros who use it, we gave that to you, you asked for titles won by pros who admit to using non-GB aiming systems, we gave you that, you asked for particular shot examples using CTE, we gave you that, you asked for us to show you we can play, you have been given that, you asked for people to show CTE in action, now you have that, you asked for credentialed instructors who teach these aiming methods, we gave you that. What else do you want?
You persist in actively trying to get people to NOT try those methods.
Why?
Rodney's reply to me on FB in 2013.
"Rodney's reply:
"john, i am not getting paid. i dont even know the system well. stevie moore just showed me a couple things and i like it. hes a buddy too so naturally i would endorse him and help him out. but it has to be true and work, otherwise i wouldnt say it" - Rodney Morris
"Rodney's reply:
"john, i am not getting paid. i dont even know the system well. stevie moore just showed me a couple things and i like it. hes a buddy too so naturally i would endorse him and help him out. but it has to be true and work, otherwise i wouldnt say it" - Rodney Morris
Ron Swanson
Banned
Ron Swanson
Banned
I STRONGLY advise people to play like current champions. Most Americans don't, from what i can gather.
You need to have a look at yourselves, quite frankly.