Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

  • I always go by feel

    Votes: 153 53.5%

  • Usually by feel, with aiming systems for hard shots

    Votes: 68 23.8%

  • Usually with aiming systems, by feel for easy shots

    Votes: 24 8.4%

  • I always use aiming systems

    Votes: 26 9.1%

  • I just hit balls very hard and hope they sink

    Votes: 15 5.2%
  • Total voters
    286
cookie man said:
I would expect the messenger to actually learn just a little bit about the objective system that he is so obsessed about. It is better to discuss something intelligently when both parties understand what it is they are discussing.
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Yes it would be better, but it seems that YOU & some others know NOTHING about what objective & objectivity are.

It's a simple issue.

CTE is NOT objective in it's nature.

Please give a complete & detailed logical, rational, objective explanation as to how & why it is, if you say that it is, & please do so with no nonsense nor subjective wording nor breaking any laws of science.

I won't hold my breath.

The reason that it is NOT objective in it's nature is it does NOT have a 'system' or method to view an objective marker or combination of markers or any specific objective instructions for all of the individual outcome angles needed.

Telling one to look for this as you 'move until you see the proper perception for the shot'... is NOT any specific objective instruction.

That is just like telling one to stand where you can see the CTC line & then 'move until you see the proper perception for the shot'.

Best Wishes.

PS Please don't 'attack' the messenger. Please deal with the 'message'. Every interested party can see the continuing tactic of attacking the messengerS used by nearly all CTE advocates..
 
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Mirza said:
Stans says all shots are inside pivot, manual left pivot or a left sweep, here is the video that he is talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Psy5hOJT0

On which shot here were you using a right pivot?
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Yes, those shots were primarily described as 15 insides but they all can be interchanged with outside 30s.

When my approach was all PRO ONE, I generally preferred the thicker look of the 15 vs the 30 when the interchange was on. Pro One is a solid way of playing. Landon still uses Pro One as does Phil and Matt Krah and many others. I used Pro One when I did so well at the Open.

Stan Shuffett
 
stan shuffett said:
Yes, those shots were primarily described as 15 insides but they all can be interchanged with outside 30s.

When my approach was all PRO ONE, I generally preferred the thicker look of the 15 vs the 30 when the interchange was on. Pro One is a solid way of playing. Landon still uses Pro One as does Phil and Matt Krah and many others. I used Pro One when I did so well at the Open.

Stan Shuffett
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What I got from cookie mans response (post #2406 on page 161) to Dan Whites post (post #2401 on page 161) is that he used 15 and thickening right pivot on that shot Dan White mentioned?
 
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Mirza said:
What I got from cookie mans response (post #2406 on page 161) to Dan Whites post (post #2401 on page 161) is that he used 15 and thickening right pivot on that shot Dan White mentioned?
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15 and outside is the 1 rail bank for all 5 shots......oh boy!

Stan Shuffett
 
Mirza said:
So on the first, thickest shot, you use 15 and outside right pivot?
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You shouldn't. It should be an inside pivot. It's been 6 yrs since my personal lesson with Stan and I have tweaked some things(probably shouldn't have) because I am right handed and left eye dominant so this particular line up is more comfortable to me.
 
cookie man said:
You shouldn't. It should be an inside pivot. It's been 6 yrs since my personal lesson with Stan and I have tweaked some things(probably shouldn't have) because I am right handed and left eye dominant so this particular line up is more comfortable to me.
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That is why I'm asking :smile:

I'm also right handed and left eye dominant and this shot is also giving me troubles with an inside pivot, I tend to overcut it for some reason.
 
Mirza said:
That is why I'm asking :smile:

I'm also right handed and left eye dominant and this shot is also giving me troubles with an inside pivot, I tend to overcut it for some reason.
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Sometimes, with any any system or method, after we align or bodies, eyes, bridge etc, STANDING UP, a shot may look different when we are down on the shot, like we are hitting it too thick or too thin and then we make the mistake of making minor adjustments to the shot after already aligning to the shot properly. Not saying you are doing this but we all do that second guessing some time. Just something to think about.

JoeyA
 
Mirza said:
That is why I'm asking :smile:

I'm also right handed and left eye dominant and this shot is also giving me troubles with an inside pivot, I tend to overcut it for some reason.[/QUOTE----

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Stan Shuffett
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stan shuffett said:
Check out my sight point video on YouTube for the 15 and 30.

Set up with your inside 1/2 tip prepivot alignment based on the 15 sight point. Pivot to CCB.

Problem solved!

Stan Shuffett
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I'm sorry but I don't understand which video I'm looking for, can you give the title of the video or direct link?

Tnx Stan :)
 
JoeyA said:
Sometimes, with any any system or method, after we align or bodies, eyes, bridge etc, STANDING UP, a shot may look different when we are down on the shot, like we are hitting it too thick or too thin and then we make the mistake of making minor adjustments to the shot after already aligning to the shot properly. Not saying you are doing this but we all do that second guessing some time. Just something to think about.

JoeyA
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I know what you're talking about, but I tried to be as robot like as much as I can, without any adjustment, and results are always the same, doesn't matter if its cut to the right or left...overcut :confused:

If you see my neighbour Ivica Putnik on US Open, say hi :)
 
As of this date & time...

Only 8.36% use an aiming 'system' all of the time.

That means that 71.64% are using & know that they are using Feel.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
As of this date & time...

Only 8.36% use an aiming 'system' all of the time.

That means that 71.64% are using & know that they are using Feel.
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Yea but over 40% use aiming systems for hard shots. Which in reality doesn't make sense. I mean if you use them for hard shots why not use them for easier shots.
 
cookie man said:
Yea but over 40% use aiming systems for hard shots. Which in reality doesn't make sense. I mean if you use them for hard shots why not use them for easier shots.
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No.

Only 23+% say they use some aiming' system for 'hard' shots. That could include shots like banks & kicks & thus the 'systems' to which they are referring would not apply to any normal cut shots.

Even if you combine that with those that normally use a system that's just over 30%.
 
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