Does a pushout require CB/cue tip contact?

VTEC John

VTEC John

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Sorry, I did not describe this situation correctly at all and missed an important point. Australian Open Filler-WissenRack 6.
1. Filler broke and failed to meet the 3-ball compliance (one pocketed, one reached the kitchen) and walked away from the table.
2. Wissen looked it over and gave it back to Filler.
3. Filler then played a pushout.
4. Wissen took the shot and played it from there.
So apparently the 3-ball rule applied, but if player #2 passes it back, player #1 can then push out.
 
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VTEC John said:
Just saw an Australian Open match in which Filler broke, then walked away from the table, passing it to the other player, David Wissen (Rack 6). Wissen gave it back and Filler shot. I always thought a pushout required some sort of action with the cue. Guess not.
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Some technicalities are irrelevant. Might be 'vernacular' in certain circles.
 
Sometimes if there is a “complying break” rule that isnt met, there is no pushout, and the opponent has the option to play it or give it back
 
soyale said:
Sometimes if there is a “complying break” rule that isnt met, there is no pushout, and the opponent has the option to play it or give it back
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Thx, I think you've solved it. There was no commentary on the match. Filler made one ball and got one ball into the kitchen on that break, so it was non-complying. I'm still curious about whether a pushout requires some sort of CB/cue tip contact.
 
soyale said:
Sometimes if there is a “complying break” rule that isnt met, there is no pushout, and the opponent has the option to play it or give it back
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Good call, that was probably the situation.

In a normal push out, I have never seen anyone not tap the cueball. I am pretty sure that is part of the rule, you must make a legal contact with the ball, but that is just about the only rule that exists for a push out, a legal stroke.
 
Found the rules posted for that Australian Open. "3-point rule" applied for men's division (not for women).
 
I do not remember ever seeing this at pro level, but if shooter touches the ball (any ball), inning is over. A pushout, however, requires legal tip contact.
 
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