Does anyone else miss the moneyball more often when...

[justadub]

I think it's a form of sharking. In leagues around here that behavior is sharking and I believe that implies concession of game. One of the guys I often play with has the habit of getting up, grabbing the rack, and just stand WAITING while you're on the game ball.

I gotta admit, I catch myself going over to where we hang the racks and putting my hand on it, getting ready... occasionally. Only in friendly games, not in tourneys or leagues. But it's still wrong.

Bad habit, bad dub. :embarrassed2:

Of course, when you rack as often as I do, you start to streamline things...

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

...Somewhere the "breaking-down-of-the-cue" and other signs of concession are in the BCA and other rules, but I don't have time at the moment to go look. (Perhaps someone would be so kind to post the excerpts here?...

-Sean

From the WPA World Rules (under general rules):

1.11 Concession
If a player concedes, he loses the match. For example, if a player unscrews his jointed playing cue stick while the opponent is at the table and during the opponent’s decisive rack of a match, it will be considered a concession of the match.

The rule is the same on the BCA website (rule 1.12)

From the BCAPL rules:

1.43 Concession of Game

1. You must not concede any game at any time for any reason. “Concede” means that as a result of any verbal or non-verbal action, you lead your opponent to believe that you are awarding them the game before its normal conclusion on the table. Before a game has ended, you must refrain from making any statements such as “good game”, etc., or any other verbal inference that the game is over or that your opponent is certain or likely to win. You must also refrain from any similar non-verbal action, such as putting away your cue or accessory items, beginning to mark a score sheet, changing clothes, juggling coins or tokens, etc. Whether or not you have conceded a game is determined solely by the referee’s judgment.
2. If you concede a game, in addition to losing that game you will receive a mandatory warning against further concessions. A second violation results in the loss of the conceded game and a deduction of one game from your score (if you have zero games, your score would be "minus one game") and a final mandatory warning. A third violation results in loss of match. In team play, any member of the team may commit the second or third violations. (AR p. 84)
3. In the absence of any act judged to be a concession under Rule 1.43.1, you must not assume that your opponent has conceded the game. If you do, you lose that game. (AR p. 84)
4. If you disturb the position of the table in an act that presumes the game is over before it is actually over, such as gathering balls together to rack the next game, you lose the game. (AR p. 84)


1.44 Concession of Match

When your opponent is on the hill, if you make a motion to unscrew

I didn't see it addressed in the APA rules.

 

[justadub]

Breaking down ones cue before the match is over is not addressed in my APA rule book, but it is addressed in our local bylaws and will result in loss of match if protested. I would assume most local bylaws are similar, but that is merely an assumption. Also, I'm looking at last years APA rule book, so it might be addressed in this years, I'll try and check when I get my hands on a new version.

 

[Get_A_Grip]

Two Quick Stories

During a state singles tournament, a guy on my team unscrewed his cue during the hill-hill game behind the back of his opponent. His opponent eventually noticed that he was putting his cue in his case before he shot his next shot, and he confronted him and said that he conceded the match by doing that. His opponent actually had 2 or 3 balls left, but my teammate was sure he would get out. Get this....they called a ref over and the ref sided with my teammate and said that that was not a concession of the game. His opponent was sure he was right, but just went ahead an ran the last few balls anyway to win the match. (I was thinking myself that it would be called unsportsmanlike conduct....but not this time...)

On my team last year, my captain once said to me before shooting my last two balls in a big game, "Don't miss". My other teammates told him not to do that, but I said, nah, I don't mind. So for the rest of the season, every time I started to get down to shoot the "money-ball", my captain would shout out, "Don't miss!". I got so used to it, I rarely if ever missed that ball, and I think that it ended-up sharking the guys on the other team -- because they were so surprised that it didn't bother me. HA!

EDIT: I should note that his opponent ended-up in the top ten that year in the tournament....and the following year was in the top five in singles as well....so he was a good player.