Does anyone have any information about this player?

It seems that many are against knocking somebody's action by asking questions about a particular player, but on the other hand, don't most road players/hustlers/money players get a line on players before they enter a particular town/city or establishment?
What about the stories of Basavitch sending people on the road before him to get a line on the speed of people in places where he was planning to travel. He even talked about being generous enough with the locals is a good way to get a line on anybody, so "always be prepared to share your winnings/action with the locals."
Road players that make a living on the road seem to be going over backwards to make sure that they get as much info as possible about the places/people they're going to play right?
So although I agree that putting a name on a thread like this isn't a 'respectable' way, but how should the local guy go about getting his info, because it sure seems that the road player has already got his number.
dave
 
Tokyo-dave said:
It seems that many are against knocking somebody's action by asking questions about a particular player, but on the other hand, don't most road players/hustlers/money players get a line on players before they enter a particular town/city or establishment?
What about the stories of Basavitch sending people on the road before him to get a line on the speed of people in places where he was planning to travel. He even talked about being generous enough with the locals is a good way to get a line on anybody, so "always be prepared to share your winnings/action with the locals."
Road players that make a living on the road seem to be going over backwards to make sure that they get as much info as possible about the places/people they're going to play right?
So although I agree that putting a name on a thread like this isn't a 'respectable' way, but how should the local guy go about getting his info, because it sure seems that the road player has already got his number.
dave
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OK, here's one scenario. I noted that Bank2Win was a very new poster, so he didn't have the option to PM people that he knows. Therefore, he could have posted like this: "Any one who knows the players in Las Vegas, please PM me so that I can ask you about a player here that's robbing people left and right." Once he got the PM's he could have asked for and received information in private without announcing a player's name and game to literally, the world.

I'm not trying to flame the guy or anything, because I strongly suspect that he made an honest mistake. What makes the situation particularly terrible, however, is the fact that the player that he exposed, if indeed he is "never missing a ball and never missing position", is obviously not hustling and really doesn't deserve to be knocked like that.
 
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Actionhound said:
funny story about hustling the hustler...

about 3 months ago this guy from mobile came to my pool room with another player looking for action... his buddy got into action and i walked in about 30 minutes after they got there... he starts woofing at me to play some 100-200 dollar sets... i tell him im really not that interested because i had to work the next day and it was late already... we go back and forth and somehow i get talked into giving this guy the last two playing for 100... i somehow manage to win the first set... then he tells me we can play even for 200... so i say flip it... (thinking i had the nuts)... we play and again i win... but this race is alot closer than the last... he then wants to play another set... he says i can get the last 2 for 300... seeing as how thats the exact amount i was winner i said sure... we play... it goes hill hill and my opponent mis-cues on a easy 6 ball... i get out and win the set... come to find out i needed the 7 from this guy all along and he was trying to set me up by breaking even and playing again later... he came back to the pool room and wanted me to give him the 8 for 1000... lol... i told him i would take the 7 and play him some more 200 or 300$ sets... which made him extremely mad (because i had him 600 stuck)... i just smiled and said... "you shouldnt have tried to hustle me then"... he got really mad then... but soon calmed down and laughed about it when he realized that i found out who he was and how he played... we have never played since...
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Here's another one, but I wasn't hustling...
I played one of the best players in NoCal the other day for $5/game for about three hours. We came out even. A kid who was watching us came in the pool hall a few days later and asked if I wanted to play for $20/ race to 5. I agreed to play, but figured he had my number because he had watched me play for a couple of hours but I had never seen him.

Well, I break and run the first rack and then play nearly flawless while winning the first two sets with him only winning a couple of games.

I started feeling crappy, low blood sugar or something and suddenly my game left me. The third set, I was really struggling and he should have destroyed me, but he thought I was playing him off...which irritated him enough that he suddenly couldn't play either. I ended up winning 5-4 and he was pissed at me and quit because he thought I was hustling...lol.

Cheers,
RC
 
Pool Detectives!!!!!

Gotta love those pool detectives! Most of them are nit railbirds that knock everyone's action ("This guy never misses a ball.") and wouldn't bet a dime unless they have a three ball lock on another player! Most couldn't case another player's true speed within 2 balls either way.

Why is it if someone plays well, they're a hustler?

When I lived in Houston, years ago, and could play a little bit, there were probably around 60 - 80 players that actively played all the time. About 95% of us just played each other. There were no secrets, we just loved to play. The money was just a way to keep score.

I used to go in bars and see a line of quarters on the rail of a bar box and see money being exchanged between the players. I would ask if it was an open challenge table and if the answer was yes, I'd put my quarters up. After my turn came up and I stayed on the table for an hour or so, I would hear someone say, "This guy is a hustler." What I want to know is who did I hustle?

One time in Austin, I beat this guy and a friend of his out of maybe $60 after he asked me to play. I didn't know this guy was a true pool detective and virtually lived in the action pool rooms in town. For two years after that, I couldn't find a game in Austin because of this nit knocking my game.

People know not to ask me how another player shoots. All I say is he plays OK. Let them learn the same way I did, by stepping up to the table.

And really, I'm not bitter! LOL

DON'T KNOCK IT UNTIL YOU TRY IT!
 
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Yeah Dave can play but he aint the nuts. Like Jay say good shortstop. But I seen my boy Amar drill his ass everytime he's played him.
 
Bank2Win said:
There is a guy here in Las Vegas, that has kept under the radar for a couple of years now. A few people have played him and lost, he doesn't play in very many tournmanents. I had heard he was an oldhausen table mechanic when he moved to las vegas. I have gambled with him a few times and he never misses a ball, or misses shape. I mean this guy plays really good. His name is Dave Bounds. I would like to know if anyone can tell me how good this guy really is.
Thanks everyone.

Bank2win
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First of all, this guy doesn't sound like he's hustling. He just seems like a pretty good player. How many hustlers stick around a town for years? How many never miss a ball, or miss shape?

Honestly, I think if you want to know more about him, asking around on the internet is a bad way to do it. It's in rather poor taste. Why don't you just ask him next time you two play?
 
Tokyo-dave said:
So although I agree that putting a name on a thread like this isn't a 'respectable' way, but how should the local guy go about getting his info, because it sure seems that the road player has already got his number.
dave
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I couldn't agree more, Dave. An old hustler with whom I've played a few games, when he first approached quite a while ago, walked up to me and said, "I've seen you practicing here for quite some time, a you need a lesson or two. Here, let me show you some stuff." He proceeded to explain how to shoot certain shots and helped me a lot in some areas. Then he gave me one of the best pieces of advice I've ever received. He said, "If anybody ever comes up to you and says they want to play, and offers to gamble with you, tell them you don't gamble. You don't know who they are. They've been sitting at the bar watching you for some time and think they can take you. Don't gamble with them." He later told me some hair raising stories of hustles he knew about. The kind where he ended up leaving town quickly, for an extended period of time. Would I trust that guy? Not a chance, he really was a hustler. Some people later asked me if I knew "Lucky Chucky"... described him to me, same guy. He's rarely seen. Not just a gambler, but a hustler, whose game goes up according to the stakes. He showed me some one pocket shots, with no warmup, and said, if I can't make this shot like this and this, with no warmup, I should quit. He called the shot, and made an amazing multi rail shot.

Gamble with that guy? Not me...

Moral of the story, get the inside skinny before going down...

Flex
 
Flex said:
I couldn't agree more, Dave. An old hustler with whom I've played a few games, when he first approached quite a while ago, walked up to me and said, "I've seen you practicing here for quite some time, a you need a lesson or two. Here, let me show you some stuff." He proceeded to explain how to shoot certain shots and helped me a lot in some areas. Then he gave me one of the best pieces of advice I've ever received. He said, "If anybody ever comes up to you and says they want to play, and offers to gamble with you, tell them you don't gamble. You don't know who they are. They've been sitting at the bar watching you for some time and think they can take you. Don't gamble with them." He later told me some hair raising stories of hustles he knew about. The kind where he ended up leaving town quickly, for an extended period of time. Would I trust that guy? Not a chance, he really was a hustler. Some people later asked me if I knew "Lucky Chucky"... described him to me, same guy. He's rarely seen. Not just a gambler, but a hustler, whose game goes up according to the stakes. He showed me some one pocket shots, with no warmup, and said, if I can't make this shot like this and this, with no warmup, I should quit. He called the shot, and made an amazing multi rail shot.

Gamble with that guy? Not me...

Moral of the story, get the inside skinny before going down...

Flex
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As always Flex, a great story! Thanks for sharing that one!
 
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