Does it matter who made the butt ??
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That'll be $5 extra, and it's more of a dusting than a sprinkle.
It's possible to find a cheapo butt that matches up well with an LD shaft, but I'd rather go with either a full cue from the LD shaft maker or another maker who builds quality cues and put some effort into matching his cues with a particular LD shaft. Pechauer comes to mind.
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I play with an LD Shaft attached to a Broom stick, works great for me!!
Oh an by the way, I cored out the Broom Stick and used epoxy to attach the shaft to the handle!!!
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Does it still have the bristle end? If so, that ain't right.
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I play with an LD Shaft attached to a Broom stick, works great for me!!
Oh an by the way, I cored out the Broom Stick and used epoxy to attach the shaft to the handle!!!
Does it still have the bristle end? If so, that ain't right.
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That's a brilliant idea! A player can clean the table after making all the balls!
Does it still have the bristle end? If so, that ain't right.
That's a brilliant idea! A player can clean the table after making all the balls!
Does it still have the bristle end? If so, that ain't right.
Yes it certainly does, after I finish whooping a little butt, I use the cue to sweep the floor before I go home at night!!
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Everyone plays different speeds, I'm just a banger but at the beer joints I use a outlaw butt with a predator Z shaft on it.. At the pool hall I use a Scruggs s/p with an original shaft turned down to 11.75mm..( pretty much same dia as the Z shaft) .. As I say I'm just a banger, but think I play just as well with one as I do the other.. The biggest thing for me personally is the tip and diameter of shaft, I use the same tip on all my shafts.. Sure the Scruggs makes me more confident, but it don't make me shoot any better.. I wouldn't mind it so bad if the outlaw walked off, but the Scruggs never goes to the beer joints.. I have no problem playing my game with a cheap butt, but I feel I need the tip of my choice .. Just my opinion.. Great thread by the way..
The Dster.
Everyone plays different speeds, I'm just a banger but at the beer joints I use a outlaw butt with a predator Z shaft on it.. At the pool hall I use a Scruggs s/p with an original shaft turned down to 11.75mm..( pretty much same dia as the Z shaft) .. As I say I'm just a banger, but think I play just as well with one as I do the other.. The biggest thing for me personally is the tip and diameter of shaft, I use the same tip on all my shafts.. Sure the Scruggs makes me more confident, but it don't make me shoot any better.. I wouldn't mind it so bad if the outlaw walked off, but the Scruggs never goes to the beer joints.. I have no problem playing my game with a cheap butt, but I feel I need the tip of my choice .. Just my opinion.. Great thread by the way..
The Dster.
Sweep
I am trying to figure out how I can get one to fit in a case! Maybe I need an old guitar case? Thanks Craig!:grin:
Yes it certainly does, after I finish whooping a little butt, I use the cue to sweep the floor before I go home at night!!
I am trying to figure out how I can get one to fit in a case! Maybe I need an old guitar case? Thanks Craig!:grin:
I was very fortunate. Some of my friends had various LD shafts that I borrowed and played with. I finally settled on a McDermott I-3 shaft (I'm probably in a minority on this but I just like it the best). As to the butt, the feel and balance is subjective. I played with a McDermott butt and the I-3 and liked it as a player. Then for about a year or so I played with a Dale Perry butt (again I'm in the minority here) and bought a used radial I-3 for it. Excellent balance and feel and a great cue overall. Now I play with a Schon CX-06 that I was lucky enough to find at a great price on this forum. Again I had to buy another used I-3 for it (that's one of the advantages of being a member of the AZ community). But it plays beatifully. It's subjective but I like the balance and feel and it's so good to look at. So in summary, 85% shaft and 25% butt. They both contribute to a great playing experience.
Thanks, Arizona Pete. This is the kind of feedback or firsthand experience I was hoping to hear about. The Mcdermott butt and I-3 shaft sounds like a nice combination. Someone else mentioned in one of thier posts about a person with an old Budweiser cue and a decent shaft playing lights out.
Maybe I was a little too low as far as a "$25 ebay butt", but the idea behind my question was that I see or hear about many players purchasing a high end cue (custom or production), and then outfitting it with an aftermarket LD shaft.
Some interesting responses so far. I'm hoping to hear more.
No, it doesn't matter who made the butt. You should screw a shaft into a papaya and shoot with that.
No you have to go to one of those sex shops and buy a Slong case, better know as holster. Many have never seen these, but for those well endowed it's a no brainer.
Just go to one shops and ask for the Slong case they work great for these cues!!!!!!:thumbup:
And Matt don't read the above reply while drinking anything!!!!!!
Take Care Buddy
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I've been testing this with a bunch of butts and shafts for about two years now. My conclusion: I don't know. When I came back to pool after 17 years off, I decided not to fall into the same-old-cue syndrome--you know, the I-want-to-play-with-a-cue-just-like-Papaw-had thing. We tend to like cues that are very much like the ones we learned to play with. In my case, that's a 25-year-old Huebler. 20oz, 60in, 13.3mm tip.
Since then I've bought several shafts: an OB-1, two G-Cores, a Kersenbrock, to list a few...and tried several others on friends' cues. All on a variety of butts from Rage, to Southwest, to custom cues made by my friend, and excellent cue maker, Bill Trimble (camargored).
My very unscientific scientific opinion is that we don't have a good model to explain what "feel" means. The most unscientific thing I hope to ever say publicly about cues: One of the butts made by Bill makes me want to hit harder no matter what shaft is on it, and no matter what the weight or balance is set to. It's my favorite butt.
I think the main difference between butts and how they "feel" is how they transmit vibration...but I have no science to support that opinion.
I think our brains are smarter than our science.
Since then I've bought several shafts: an OB-1, two G-Cores, a Kersenbrock, to list a few...and tried several others on friends' cues. All on a variety of butts from Rage, to Southwest, to custom cues made by my friend, and excellent cue maker, Bill Trimble (camargored).
My very unscientific scientific opinion is that we don't have a good model to explain what "feel" means. The most unscientific thing I hope to ever say publicly about cues: One of the butts made by Bill makes me want to hit harder no matter what shaft is on it, and no matter what the weight or balance is set to. It's my favorite butt.
I think the main difference between butts and how they "feel" is how they transmit vibration...but I have no science to support that opinion.
I think our brains are smarter than our science.
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That is a very good question. In fact, a similar subject came up on the TAR video of the 2009 cue makers round table. One of the cuemakers made a statement that most of the hit was in the shaft. Bill Schick was in disagreement and said that a good hitting cue was a combination of the whole package. Basically, if you want a good hitting cue both the shaft and butt have to be quality.
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Allison Fisher comes to mind.