Yeah maybe but the ball is usually in the buyers court. The seller kinda has to ride whatever wave the buyer puts out. I've done a few last-second walkaways but it was because i found out that seller was feeding me a line of shit.
Don't you hate it when you think you have a trade made, and just about finalized, and then the other party goes radio silent?
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Maybe Sellers should respect buyers time .... and quit bullshitting ... i have gotten bad deals as well
Yep, shit can happen anytime $$ changes hands.
Seems the same to me.
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A tubed old 3x6 Justis for a Ginacue Titleist conversion even trade?
kinda doubt that. had to be some $$$ changing hands as well.
But it has always come down to one thing... integrity. Seems there was a little more of it, back in the late 80's through the 90's.
Maybe it is generational, the same people who have second place trophies and entitlement think they can do whatever they want. Where the older set seem to be more reliable.
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Plenty of straight up younger buyer/sellers. I think there's been dicks in every generation. Problem today, imo, is that so many deals are done via social media of some sort. The amount of on-line fk'ery that goes on is nuts. What we need is big yearly cue show/swap meet like a gun show where all deals are face to face. Buy a table and sell ur stuff. I've heard the Expo is kinda like that but i'm not going to Philly area much less that time of year. A spring/fall event in KansasCity would be ideal imo. Central location for all.
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Buyers also hold all the power, when dealing online.
Yep, the world we live in now. That's why a big 'pool stuff' swap/show/buy deal would be the nuts. You see it, hit it, buy it or walk.
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No, he told me I would have to add $200 cash to the trade, and the Gina is in horrible condition. A large chunk of wood is out of an area of butt sleeve, and he told me the veneers needed to be repaired, and that the butt plate needed to be replaced. It is in pretty bad condition as is, and I believe I found the listing that ended a few years ago on ebay for around $1150. Anyways, he made me an offer, but then changed his mind, and went radio silent, after seeing a very small flaw, that he would have originally seen, if he would have viewed my pictures. It was a flaw so small, that I did not even originally notice it. Anyways, just really bummed. Would have loved to have the Gina, just for a Player, to use as is. People should not go back on their word after making an offer, in my opinion.
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A dent is not a flaw, in your opinion. Noted. What is it then? A feature?
Leather and wood have many natural nuances and most makers state this outright.
However, you are not the maker. You are a reseller. Even if the item is "NOS" or "NWT" there is shelf wear and degradation of materials due to age, oxidation, and other natural forces.
Knowing something might be considered a flaw by a buyer, then providing detailed pictures without stating that "feature" is there, is playing "Where's Waldo" with someone's money, time, and dignity.
Is it rude to ghost somebody? Sure. It could also be rude to handle such a "feature" by telling a buyer it isn't a flaw after leaving them to discover it while knowing it was there. I also don't know hoe the item was described when advertised.
I have no idea what the details of the communications were. If someone was rude, in another time and place it might have been settled with pistols at ten paces.
Move on, find another buyer.
Why is it that AZB has become the repository of the runoff from FB? When I left five years ago I was happy to identify cues for people that popped in, but it was mostly a game played with regularly posting members. Now people pop in, want free advice, cue and case identification, bring their FB conflicts here, and some of them stay. I saw a post asking about a cue on FB where the poster said he came here to ask because the "older guys" are here and the knowledge is great. Some of them come and stay.
The most common intro new members make is "I have been lurking for years", reading and absorbing from the members at AZB. That's really cool. I probably said the same thing all those years ago.
I bought a cue. The seller was not on AZB, he is on FB and I am not. But I found the cue for sale anyway. His pricing was way out of line. He supported everything he said with screenshots from AZB, which he actually got wrong and didn't properly understand. They were screenshots of my own posts.
This is a great community. If you need to whine I guess you can do it here. But if you play Where's Waldo with me, I'm sure I will walk away, no pistols involved.
Sure they have some extra bandwidth not using so we outta have a 'Whine-n-Cheese' section so the butthurt have a place to vent.
Seriously the guy acts like he's the first and only person to deal with this shit. Enough already, we GOT it. Believe me we got it. Move on.vintagecollectibles831
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For whatever it is worth, I posted a 4 minute video, doing the best I could, to show the condition of the case. I also noted in my listing to please watch that video, to make their own opinion on the condition. If only people who are seriously interested would watch the video, then they would know the condition, and see very small flaws that I did not notice. That was the purpose of the video. I do it in all my listings, because it is too hard to describe every single tiny little flaw, in a 30 year old pool cue case, for example. Then the buyer receives the item, points out that tiny little flaw that I did not advertise, and asks for a partial refund. I do the videos to try my best to avoid these situations, with buyer remorse.
Here is a Pic of the issue that was the deal breaker. I believe the leather somehow got stretched out over time a little, to cause that small appearance of a crater in the leather. Probably an easy fix, by a custom case maker, or maybe even any good Leather repair shop? I am going to ask around the leather shops locally, to see if they can make this old case look as nice as possible, for hopefully not too much of a price. Maybe fix that crater looking issue somehow too. I guess the leather just needs to be pulled back, and maybe glued to the bottom. I do not know though. Just a guess.
And, when I said not a flaw, I only meant, not a major issue. It is just a very old case. But I feel it is not bad for its age. The last one I had was in far worse condition.
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Everything ok?I agree, I can’t stand “strokers” that’s the old school term used by telemarketers for people who promise to buy but never send the check.
When I was selling for a living, I was very good at it. The rush of closing a deal and buttoning it up was cool.
However those days are long gone for me. I can’t stand haggling anymore. I’d rather just pay a number and carry on with my day than the back & forth nonsense of trying to reach a deal.
I’m completely burned out on all that noise. I did it as it was a means to an end for me, better than hammering nails.
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