Doubles play, shotmakers vs position / safety

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AzB Silver Member
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Found something interesting during a partners match.

Playing with another player who had good control of the ball, good eye and cue ball placement for tough layouts, but the other team had two stronger shot makers but went for harder shots a lot more often.

When playing alternate shot, we beat them both sets, when playing shoot till you miss, they won both sets.

When they had tough layouts they tended to miss a lot when trying to get shape as well as make a ball, yet when I'd leave them a tough table length shot on the rail, they more often then not made it, so things evened out pretty well, except for the format.

Seems like alternate shots (which to me is a true partners format, otherwise why not just get a second table and play one on one), favor the more knowledgable controlled players while shoot till you miss is all for the shotmakers. This sound like a correct statement or just something random that I saw during our games?

This is a match up that happens quite often, and I'm planning on offering up a one set alt shot, one set shoot till you miss format in our outings.
 
Found something interesting during a partners match.

Playing with another player who had good control of the ball, good eye and cue ball placement for tough layouts, but the other team had two stronger shot makers but went for harder shots a lot more often.

When playing alternate shot, we beat them both sets, when playing shoot till you miss, they won both sets.

When they had tough layouts they tended to miss a lot when trying to get shape as well as make a ball, yet when I'd leave them a tough table length shot on the rail, they more often then not made it, so things evened out pretty well, except for the format.

Seems like alternate shots (which to me is a true partners format, otherwise why not just get a second table and play one on one), favor the more knowledgable controlled players while shoot till you miss is all for the shotmakers. This sound like a correct statement or just something random that I saw during our games?

This is a match up that happens quite often, and I'm planning on offering up a one set alt shot, one set shoot till you miss format in our outings.

Shoot til you miss obviously also highly favors the partnership consisting of one very weak player and one strong player. Even if the weak player screws up, the strong player can often run out anyway.

KMRUNOUT
 
What KM said, plus the fact that when you're running balls by yourself, you kinda figure what leave you'll get. If you keep giving yourself mediocre leaves, but expect them, it's not as bad as your teammate leaving you awkwardly every time and it getting into your head. As a team, you and he were more into the style of bump and run if you didn't feel comfortable with the shot, but the other team was trying to make everything they could.. does that sound about right?
 
Shoot til you miss obviously also highly favors the partnership consisting of one very weak player and one strong player. Even if the weak player screws up, the strong player can often run out anyway.

KMRUNOUT

All 4 of us are very equal in overall ability. Me and the guy I play with are pretty good shotmakers but not at the level of the other 2. But me and my partner have more experience with percentage play and "moves" as well as a better ability to play tight shape and make shots when you have to do something else than just pocket the ball. Meaning they'd make a tougher, longer cut or whatever than we normally could, but not if you had to think about moving the cue ball somewhere not natural for the angle.

It seems almost every single time we play, shotmaker + shotmaker + shoot till you miss is a win for them.
What I wanted to do is propose an equal matchup where we'd alternate how we play the sets, but for that to work, what I am seeing happening when we play would actually have to be pretty true instead of something I'm just observing in our games.
 
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