Dreaming of and designing my own pool table

Sorry, but those cushions are not the K55 profile, they're the K66 profile, and won't work with the 22.5 degree bevel if those rails are 1 3/4" thick.
That's really confusing: so there are 2 Artemis products: the n°66 and the International n°66 with 2 different profiles (k66 and k55)
I'll keep working with what I've got.

The rail thickness has not yet been chosen. I'm working from the bottom up as reference to all the cuts and height measurements. The total height of the rail is now 46mm (about 1 13/16") and when routing the convex top, it will become close to 1 3/4".

I chose 22.5° for it looks like there will be the most "rubber meat" in the horizontal plane of the force when a ball bounces on the rail. Making it 20° for example, shows me a more downwards pointing rail.
I still have the opportunity to recut this angle. Recutting allows me to lower the reference attachment point of the bottom of the rubber, and recutting allows me also to change the angle.
Nothing is really definite at this point.

Earlier I had another thread on this topic: https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/what-angle-for-rubber-cushions.536345/
and also some info on : https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/k66-nose-height.84511/

I've got a whole plan with steps written down, but I take it as it comes. The to do list gets changed every five minutes thinking and working on this project :cool: I'm having so much fun.
 
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That's really confusing: so there are 2 Artemis products: the n°66 and the International n°66 with 2 different profiles (k66 and k55)
I'll keep working with what I've got.

...
I went looking a little further ...

I just found this: the first mention of the 2 different Artemis profiles together.
Now it all starts making sense
Profile info.PNG


checking some European webshops: there's not much to find about the International 66, none I can find talks about 2 different types.
But since Brunswick is not the main pool brand around here, it"s kinda logical.

Lesson learned ...
 
Correction, the Artemis pool K66 is not the same as the Intercontinental model 66. The Pool is K66, the Model 66 is the K55 profile. No where does it say K55 on the Intercontinental no.66 cushions.
Yes it's exactly what I want to say, in others words formulation, English is not my first language, I try to make my best!:)
 
I went looking a little further ...

I just found this: the first mention of the 2 different Artemis profiles together.
Now it all starts making sense
View attachment 711084

checking some European webshops: there's not much to find about the International 66, none I can find talks about 2 different types.
But since Brunswick is not the main pool brand around here, it"s kinda logical.

Lesson learned ...
That's because the Intercontinental is a billiards cushion, so you're looking in the wrong direction!!
 
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Who said the K55 profile was wrong for him?
I went looking a little further ...

I just found this: the first mention of the 2 different Artemis profiles together.
Now it all starts making sense
View attachment 711084

checking some European webshops: there's not much to find about the International 66, none I can find talks about 2 different types.
But since Brunswick is not the main pool brand around here, it"s kinda logical.

Lesson learned ...
Click to expand...
That's because the Intercontinental is a billiards cushion, so you're looking in the wrong direction!!
 
That's because the Intercontinental is a billiards cushion, so you're looking in the wrong direction!!
What that means is, if you're looking for pool cushions, you're not going to run across the Intercontinental no.66 cushions, because they fall under billiards cushions. But because they have a K55 profile, Diamond uses them, and are the only manufacturer doing so.
 
What that means is, if you're looking for pool cushions, you're not going to run across the Intercontinental no.66 cushions, because they fall under billiards cushions. But because they have a K55 profile, Diamond uses them, and are the only manufacturer doing so.
Ah ok!
 
What that means is, if you're looking for pool cushions, you're not going to run across the Intercontinental no.66 cushions, because they fall under billiards cushions. But because they have a K55 profile, Diamond uses them, and are the only manufacturer doing so.
Did some extra research on this discussion on rubber profiles

This is what I got:
artemis66.jpg


and this is the one making it confusing.
This product is only to be found on billards accessory pages, not pool table accessory pages
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Some extra confusion on the profile is that there is more than one billiards rubber profile:
We learned in above thread there is that 66-profile for billiards, but there are also 2 others: a 79-profile and a 37-profile. Both similar in shape te each other but a little different in dimensions. The 37-profile seems to be the "professional" one, even with a special edition endorsed by Raymond Ceulemans.
artemis79.jpg


artemis37.jpg


artemisRCPRO37.jpg


So, today I learned something new about pool and billiard table rubber profiles

I hope you guys enjoy this as much as I do
 
Did some extra research on this discussion on rubber profiles

This is what I got:
View attachment 711266

and this is the one making it confusing.
This product is only to be found on billards accessory pages, not pool table accessory pages
View attachment 711267

Some extra confusion on the profile is that there is more than one billiards rubber profile:
We learned in above thread there is that 66-profile for billiards, but there are also 2 others: a 79-profile and a 37-profile. Both similar in shape te each other but a little different in dimensions. The 37-profile seems to be the "professional" one, even with a special edition endorsed by Raymond Ceulemans.
View attachment 711268

View attachment 711269

View attachment 711270

So, today I learned something new about pool and billiard table rubber profiles

I hope you guys enjoy this as much as I do
👍
 
Let me start with a promise: after this, you won't hear anything from me for the next 4 weeks.

my boss asked me to switch shifts this weekend, so I got to play in the workshop again.
I got some nice things done...

Last time with the rubbers attached I measured the total width of the rails: 8 inches.
That's just to wide, I cut one inch off today.
I re-routed the groove in the back again (later there will be an angled cut, the same angle as the legs, for attaching the skirts)
I also pre-routed the groove for the featherstrip. This is not yet perfect and not yet the right depth and width, but it's there now ...making sure for an easier cut next time.
Then I cut 4 rails to lenght: 2 short, 2 long

IMG_20230805_125252.png


IMG_20230805_125319.png


Laying them out, with the rubbers attached with painter's tape.
It's becoming real, not a dream anymore
IMG_20230805_144214.png


I've got the width spot on: 127cm = 50 inches
IMG_20230805_145423.png


the length needs some work, but close ...
should be 100 inches = 254 cm
IMG_20230805_145520.png


Visualising the corner pocket liner
IMG_20230805_144830.png


I don't like pointy corners, I don't like rounded corners, I like chamfered (is this the right word?).
I'm using an angled cut-out from the leftover piece of rail to use as attachment piece and eventually make a solid rail all around.
IMG_20230805_151655.png


There's still so much to do, but I've got time ... although not in the next month
 
Let me start with a promise: after this, you won't hear anything from me for the next 4 weeks.

my boss asked me to switch shifts this weekend, so I got to play in the workshop again.
I got some nice things done...

Last time with the rubbers attached I measured the total width of the rails: 8 inches.
That's just to wide, I cut one inch off today.
I re-routed the groove in the back again (later there will be an angled cut, the same angle as the legs, for attaching the skirts)
I also pre-routed the groove for the featherstrip. This is not yet perfect and not yet the right depth and width, but it's there now ...making sure for an easier cut next time.
Then I cut 4 rails to lenght: 2 short, 2 long

View attachment 712233

View attachment 712234

Laying them out, with the rubbers attached with painter's tape.
It's becoming real, not a dream anymore
View attachment 712235

I've got the width spot on: 127cm = 50 inches
View attachment 712236

the length needs some work, but close ...
should be 100 inches = 254 cm
View attachment 712237

Visualising the corner pocket liner
View attachment 712238

I don't like pointy corners, I don't like rounded corners, I like chamfered (is this the right word?).
I'm using an angled cut-out from the leftover piece of rail to use as attachment piece and eventually make a solid rail all around.
View attachment 712239

There's still so much to do, but I've got time ... although not in the next month
Yes, chamfered is the proper word. It's really cool to see this coming together.
 
Let me start with a promise: after this, you won't hear anything from me for the next 4 weeks.

my boss asked me to switch shifts this weekend, so I got to play in the workshop again.
I got some nice things done...

Last time with the rubbers attached I measured the total width of the rails: 8 inches.
That's just to wide, I cut one inch off today.
I re-routed the groove in the back again (later there will be an angled cut, the same angle as the legs, for attaching the skirts)
I also pre-routed the groove for the featherstrip. This is not yet perfect and not yet the right depth and width, but it's there now ...making sure for an easier cut next time.
Then I cut 4 rails to lenght: 2 short, 2 long

View attachment 712233

View attachment 712234

Laying them out, with the rubbers attached with painter's tape.
It's becoming real, not a dream anymore
View attachment 712235

I've got the width spot on: 127cm = 50 inches
View attachment 712236

the length needs some work, but close ...
should be 100 inches = 254 cm
View attachment 712237

Visualising the corner pocket liner
View attachment 712238

I don't like pointy corners, I don't like rounded corners, I like chamfered (is this the right word?).
I'm using an angled cut-out from the leftover piece of rail to use as attachment piece and eventually make a solid rail all around.
View attachment 712239

There's still so much to do, but I've got time ... although not in the next month
Why do you feel the need to make promises to strangers on a forum?
 
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