Dress Code for Gold Crown Billiards, Erie, PA
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I was just watching High Stakes Poker and this untouchable named Guy Laliberte had his cap on BACKWARDS!!! Oh, the horror!
He's only worth a few $billion and gives $10's of millions away to charity every year...but I wouldn't want his type dirtying up my establishment!
He's only worth a few $billion and gives $10's of millions away to charity every year...but I wouldn't want his type dirtying up my establishment!
Its always easier to try and drag people down to your level, then rise up to theirs. If you don't like what's on a certain tv channel, you can always change it. Same with pool rooms. If you don't like the dress code, you can take your business somewhere else.
People that dress nice usually have dollars to spend. People that look like they live in their car, usually don't. There are always exceptions to the rule of course.
My wife likes to go with me occasionally when I play in a tournament. We usually have dinner there and a few drinks, and my wife likes to gamble a little. She will be with me when I go to the Derby later this month. I certainly don't want her to be around people using foul language that look like gangsters.
Usually the people that dress like gangsters and have lots of money to throw around don't have regular jobs. That may seem exciting to some people but to me it means trouble, and I don't want any part of it, especially if my wife is with me.
I'll continue to patronize places like Paul's and maybe someday soon my wife and I will stop in and check his place out. Sounds like a nice weekend away to me since I live in central Ohio.
People that dress nice usually have dollars to spend. People that look like they live in their car, usually don't. There are always exceptions to the rule of course.
My wife likes to go with me occasionally when I play in a tournament. We usually have dinner there and a few drinks, and my wife likes to gamble a little. She will be with me when I go to the Derby later this month. I certainly don't want her to be around people using foul language that look like gangsters.
Usually the people that dress like gangsters and have lots of money to throw around don't have regular jobs. That may seem exciting to some people but to me it means trouble, and I don't want any part of it, especially if my wife is with me.
I'll continue to patronize places like Paul's and maybe someday soon my wife and I will stop in and check his place out. Sounds like a nice weekend away to me since I live in central Ohio.
Hey Paul I agree with you on this issue , Now here's a little story about myself a few years ago before I started playing pool now I used to dress like a punk rocker with long hair long beard and never gave a thought of it now I still looked like this my first year of playing then finally I took a long hard look in the mirror and said to myself somethings got to change .
So I went out got a total make over got my hair cut and started clean shaving , the way I dress now is a nice Polo and undershirt nice dress slacks and shoes , people were afraid of me before hand and didn't want to play it just goes to show that a person's image is everything on the way they dress . I see alot of young youths out there that dress like gangsters with the pants sagging and the long shirts and hats to the side . I'm not saying its bad but have a little respect for yourself and others around you .
When I was playing league I remember there was a kid from another team that always wore his pants falling off his butt and finally someone said something to him and he's respones was that he didn't have belt that fit him .....If you think about it now I don't know if it's me but there are stores out there that sells belts that fit people I think it was an excuse for him to get away with it . Personally when I'm playing a game of pool with someone I don't need to see there underpants when they are shooting .
Your doing a great job Paul and some day hopfully I can take a trip to see your pool room .
Theres a before and after picture of me and the way i used to look .
That's pretty funny because Rob Zombie is the only person I would let fly on my dress code.
JV (----Hellbilly Deluxe
He is merely showing his disrespect for a poker. He would not show up at a board meeting or a celebrety golf tournament with his hat on backwards. Lets get some respect and show some respect for pocket billiards. Can you just imagine Irving Crane, Jim Rempe, or Pat Fleming in their day showing up to play a match wearing a backwards baseball cap?
Wouldja like to make odds on that , Paul ?
Wanna see the photos before or after you lay down your money . . . . ?
Guy isn't showing his 'disrespect' for poker , he's trying to appear as a regular guy . Also , if a billionaire sits down at a poker table in a $10,000 Armani suit , all your dreams of 'buying a pot' fly out the window , don't they ?
Maybe Guy just LIKES to wear his hat that way . . . after all , he is "circus people" , and they probably aren't welcome in your establishment either !
even if they HAVE been to space . . . .
He is welcome in my place to play pool. He will just need to turn his hat around.
I am interested in seeing the golf and board room photos. Please post them. He really is quite the colorful character. I am guessing at this but I think that neither golfers, bowlers, or even pool players are permitted to wear a baseball hat on backwards for a TV event. It is about dressing appropriately, showing respect, if you will. I don't know the poker culture and it sounds like they have their own dress code. I am saying that the dress code for pool should be higher if we want to improve our image. At the same time we need to improve the places we play at.
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I find it funny to see people that seem to be so annoyed by Pauls rules. It's his place, it's been running smoothly from the sound of it and he's not hurting for business.
You are never going to please everyone, but it sounds like Paul has quite a clientele that do not mind the rules. If they did not like it, they would not come in. Just in reading the responses here, it looks like about 1/2 would frequent such an establishment, the rest would not.
I for one would! YMMV
You are never going to please everyone, but it sounds like Paul has quite a clientele that do not mind the rules. If they did not like it, they would not come in. Just in reading the responses here, it looks like about 1/2 would frequent such an establishment, the rest would not.
I for one would! YMMV
I would certainly like to visit his establishment, as I've said before. I wouldn't have to change a thing about how I dress to go there. The photo's of his room show a beautiful establishment. Again, congrats.
My only potential issue in going there is if I were to receive the same attitude that I perceive from his posts in this thread, and other threads that he has participated in. There is a level of arrogance or pomposity that I detect. I am probably wrong (I often am, ask my wife). Let me state that again, the attitude which I perceive from his posts here. The written word on an internet forum is usually much different than face-to-face encounters, so I take that for what it is worth. You should too.
I have no issue with people trying to make their business successful, and in doing what they believe is necessary toward that end. The bottom line is how I am treated as a customer, whether the room is a posh restaurant style place like Paul's, or a dumpy little hole-in-the-wall.
One more time, I wish you continued success, Paul.
Many negative adjectives have been assigned to me over the years by the people that know me. Arrogance and pompous are not two of them. That's OK. No offense taken. At the same time, I hope I have not offended anyone. A lot is lost over the Internet.
Paul, first off, congratulations on a beautiful and clearly successful room. You obviously maintain a good atmosphere and I'm sure keeping attire respectful is part of that. I'd love to play there if I make it out to Erie.
What I find slightly off-putting about the dress code is that some of the items seem to reflect your personal judgment of the wearer's character. As the dissent on this thread indicates, your preferences are not universal these days.
I wear business attire 5 days a week because I have to; at other times I prefer to relax and not worry about a dress code. I like to think that I maintain the same standards of respectfulness no matter what I'm wearing. My preferred attire happens to meet your dress code, but the same logic that you use to ban things like backwards hats could easily be applied to prohibit the jeans-and-sneakers crowd like me, and so on up the chain until we're all back to tuxedos. I don't appreciate being judged based on my appearance, and I'm sure many of the other dissenters here feel the same way.
Of course, it's your room and you can do what you like. The objectors, by and large, just don't appreciate being judged based on appearance.
What I find slightly off-putting about the dress code is that some of the items seem to reflect your personal judgment of the wearer's character. As the dissent on this thread indicates, your preferences are not universal these days.
I wear business attire 5 days a week because I have to; at other times I prefer to relax and not worry about a dress code. I like to think that I maintain the same standards of respectfulness no matter what I'm wearing. My preferred attire happens to meet your dress code, but the same logic that you use to ban things like backwards hats could easily be applied to prohibit the jeans-and-sneakers crowd like me, and so on up the chain until we're all back to tuxedos. I don't appreciate being judged based on my appearance, and I'm sure many of the other dissenters here feel the same way.
Of course, it's your room and you can do what you like. The objectors, by and large, just don't appreciate being judged based on appearance.
We have threads filled about making money for our sport, not getting enough publicity, why pool is a dying sport, etc etc etc yet when it comes down to it everyone who plays pool, has a pool hall or enjoys the sport has to make the sport grow, by word of mouth or by teaching.
Your business may work well for you, but it is just that and very restrictive.
Now this right here, this is what our sport needs.
In his next week his business will expose the sport to potentially 300+ people, if out of those 300 people at least half enjoy their time and come back with 2 or more friends, then in just that one week he may have gotten 450 new potential customers.
Don't get me wrong I think you run your business to your liking and that works but to be honest I would much rather see this type of business to help our sport out.
I mean seriously golf is a pro sport but you don't see everyone wearing slacks and polo when they go to the driving range and in turn this has gotten the youth involved thus why their is high school golf teams and college golf teams.
The more players interested in our sport the more money it will draw, the better it will be for all pool halls eventually. Maybe that's thinking too far out but hey never knows. It's like that good deed thing, do 1 good deed and watch it grow.
Your business may work well for you, but it is just that and very restrictive.
Now this right here, this is what our sport needs.
In his next week his business will expose the sport to potentially 300+ people, if out of those 300 people at least half enjoy their time and come back with 2 or more friends, then in just that one week he may have gotten 450 new potential customers.
Don't get me wrong I think you run your business to your liking and that works but to be honest I would much rather see this type of business to help our sport out.
I mean seriously golf is a pro sport but you don't see everyone wearing slacks and polo when they go to the driving range and in turn this has gotten the youth involved thus why their is high school golf teams and college golf teams.
The more players interested in our sport the more money it will draw, the better it will be for all pool halls eventually. Maybe that's thinking too far out but hey never knows. It's like that good deed thing, do 1 good deed and watch it grow.
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I am also wondering about braless and otherwise exposed women.
Seems to be no rules there.
Sounds good to me. :joyful:
Sometimes we make up rules on the spot at the counter.
I once had a guy come in wearing a short composed of a material I had never seen before and have never seen since. The material was so thin and tight that every last contour of his penis and scrotum was revealed.
I once had a guy come in wearing a short composed of a material I had never seen before and have never seen since. The material was so thin and tight that every last contour of his penis and scrotum was revealed.
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thank you for that visual image.... :crying:
Their is a trend here in california for people to wear pants that are like spandex but their really tight and basically see through, good thing for us only females wear it. Bad thing we never get any drills done on the days they come in.. but hey I don't mind lol :grin:
Their is a trend here in california for people to wear pants that are like spandex but their really tight and basically see through, good thing for us only females wear it. Bad thing we never get any drills done on the days they come in.. but hey I don't mind lol :grin:
My favorite dress code story took place in the early 80's. It was a Saturday night around midnight and two young guys came in and they were not dressed properly and they had had too much to drink. The dress code was explained and they were really good natured about it and did not give us a hard time. They left without incident. They came back a half hour later wearing TUXEDOS! The entire poolroom just howled. They enjoyed the rest of the night on the house.
As we all know, people can allow who they want in their own poolroom. Yet, if you look at the "biker section" (leathers, colors, wallets on chains)... isn't this just full blown discrimination? I don't know, if somebody wants an analogy, it makes about as much sense as saying people can't come into my room with their church attire (button down shirts, slacks, bibles in their pockets). There is a Harley Convention in Florida once a year, people from all walks of life are there in that leather. I'm just not sure what you're trying to say with this particular section of your dress code. Anyway, to each their own, you are obviously doing something right.... and I do wish you continued success
About the only "stylin'" thing that turns my stomach.
Mike,
It sounds like you have a great mixture of your local community supporting your business and it is easy to see why that is so, knowing you and seeing photos of your business.
However, I'm genuinely curious. How many of these customers of yours have their pants hanging off the cheeks of their butt, showing the 90 degree smile or pulling up on their pants on every shot just to keep their pants from falling to their knees? (You know what I mean, the gangsta style of wearing their trousers without belts and just making a spectacle of themselves).
Mike,
It sounds like you have a great mixture of your local community supporting your business and it is easy to see why that is so, knowing you and seeing photos of your business.
However, I'm genuinely curious. How many of these customers of yours have their pants hanging off the cheeks of their butt, showing the 90 degree smile or pulling up on their pants on every shot just to keep their pants from falling to their knees? (You know what I mean, the gangsta style of wearing their trousers without belts and just making a spectacle of themselves).