The Old Jaybird
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if you want to be a pro pool player, dress like one, not a slob in the peanut gallery.
Dress code in tournaments
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In the world of corporations, no. In the world of pool, yes. I'd argue they're the biggest brand in pool now and are what Meucci was in the 80's and 90's. They're all over everything and the league players are gaga over their cues.
As far as pool attracting big corporate sponsors goes, it's probably not going to happen anytime soon. The average pool player just doesn't have the type of income to make it worth their investment. I mean, go back through these forums and look at how many times people have complained about table time prices, chalk prices, food and drink prices, etc. And we all know the cheapskates at our own poolrooms. In the meantime I know absolute hack golfers that have never even sniffed breaking 100 who don't bat an eye at going out and blowing $55.00 on a dozen Titlist Pro V1's. And they're going to lose half of them in one round. That's not even taking into consideration the cost of the round, $5.00+ beer cart brews, their clubs, and whatever else. But here we are complaining about $30.00 for a cube of chalk that should last the average person at least a few months. Or a $35.00 tip that should last at least that long.
Pool does not have an image problem. Pool has a money problem. Sponsors wouldn't care if the players wore assless chaps as long as there's enough money in it.
sure, i've seen guys complain about table rent and then blow ten times as much on the slot machines next to the tables. there's nothing wrong with casino sponsors imo. i'm fine with nicotine, alcohol sponsors too.
we're never going to become golf. most sports won't. and i'm fine with that too.
Rules are rules...Since I was dead money in the Florida Open, I thought at least I could dress nice. The player agreement said polo, no t-shirt so I thought I would wear my nicest button down. I was scheduled to play on a TV table and showed up 10 min early. I am glad I did because I was asked to change from my button down to a polo. My wife ran back to the room and got a polo so I wouldn't violate dress code
True, but poker players weren't rich, not too long ago.
What would you suggest..?Purple..?
Again, I said no suits should be worn...
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And players weren't comfortable in the 90'ies when pool was on tv, wearing slacks and a polo shirt..?Didn't keep Earl and others from winning U.S. opens...
You're also most likely not making a living playing pool...
I didnt say he violated the dress code, read my post.
And when I go to Applebees I don't represent them unlike I do pool if I play in a tournament, especially as a top player.
And what's wrong with wearing a three piece suit at Applebee's...(?) If you go to a garage sale, you specifically dress like a bum..?
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boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
What's your point exactly? It doesn't matter if you think shorts are icky as you clutch your pearls. If the event had a different dress code he would have wore different clothes. If his sponsors cared they would have him wear different clothes. Shane went home with the money... meanwhile all the pearl clutchers sit and worry that pool's sacred image is somehow tarnished because a champion wore shorts.
Again, the outfit would not look out of place on a golf course, a tennis match, etc. Dressing nicely, yet athletically for a sport is bad for a sport why? Tennis has tons of sponsors. They don't seem to care that their athletes wear shorts... I'd like to make a counterpoint that if players wore sport equipment maybe sponsors would like that. Imagine Gatorade or Nike sponsoring players.
I was replying to Coco. Unless I directly quote you please assume I'm talking with the person I quoted. You are free to respond and add to the conversation but please don't misconstrue that I said you thought he violated the dress code.
RidgeRaider
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So? What does making a living doing it have to do with anything?
I wear whatever I feel like wearing to my job, and I likely would never work for a place that requires a uniform, because places like that usually suck.
Most of them still aren't. But poker has the privilege of basically sponsoring itself. The big poker websites rake in tons of cash and, in turn, sponsor events and players. Nothing in pool brings in remotely close to the amount of money poker does.
For what it's worth, any any tournament is obviously welcome to enact and enforce any dress code they like. And I don't have a problem with it. It's their tournament and they can run it however they'd like. But they'd be limiting their fields because no shortstop (or below) is going to go out and buy an outfit or multiple outfits for a tournament they're basically dead money in.
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Whether players (or folks here) like it or not, dress codes will eventually be in place for major pool events.
MR already requires players to wear event shirts, dark smart trousers, and dark smart shoes/sneakers. No denim, t-shirts, shorts. I think they also restrict placement, number, and size of their sponsor logos.
Personally I think it's a good thing so pros don't look like a bunch of hoosiers.
Lou Figueroa
don't mean to
offend hoosiers, lol
MR already requires players to wear event shirts, dark smart trousers, and dark smart shoes/sneakers. No denim, t-shirts, shorts. I think they also restrict placement, number, and size of their sponsor logos.
Personally I think it's a good thing so pros don't look like a bunch of hoosiers.
Lou Figueroa
don't mean to
offend hoosiers, lol
Perfect Jimmy! No more shortstops .
Nah.... Omaha Fats with his hotdogged stained white Tee shirt, was the best.
. Nah.... Omaha Fats with his hotdogged stained white Tee shirt, was the best.
If a dress code would make it easier to make a living you'd most likely feel differently and if someone paid you enough to adhere to a dress code you most likely would if you liked the job.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I see your point, but I think it's irrelevant. I also see you grasping at loose ends trying to solidify your point but in my opinion it's untenable. It appears you cannot have a discussion but simply discount anything you don't agree with.
You think it looks amateurish. That's nice. I don't. That's also nice.
See where the problem here is? Neither of us sponsor pool so we don't really have a say in any of it. You think it looks amateurish, I don't. Neither is wrong or right.
There is no point in this conversation because anytime anyone says anything or gives an opinion that is different from yours you just discount it. We can agree to disagree. A polo shirt is not fancy. It's something you would wear to a BBQ. So is what Shane wore.
For the slow kids in the back it doesn't matter what they wore in the 90s. That's 30 years ago. This would be like in the 90s forcing the pros to well bell bottom pants. This is a silly argument. If a player is sponsored they wear what the sponsor requires. If they play at an event with a dress code, they wear that. It doesn't matter what we think it looks like. We aren't sponsors and we aren't paying the bills. Thinking you know what the sponsors want is a fruitless activity.
People have been rubbing their hands together thinking pool needs a more formal or professional dress code since 3 piece suits went away. Get real. It's a sport. As long as your ass crack isn't hanging out and you look somewhat professional what does it matter?
''somewhat professional'' is exactly what a professional should not look like.
And since the game was doing better when players dressed accordingly, that seems to have been a factor then and could be now.
You or me not sponsoring pool is a non factor as ''no'' big company is sponsoring the game and I doubt its because players at some point dressed too elegantly, hence, yes, it is something that very well can be discussed.