Drugs????

Do you take drugs?

  • Yes because they are fun.

    Votes: 23 14.7%

  • Yes I have a real medical reason, not an excuse

    Votes: 18 11.5%

  • No, I did but am clean

    Votes: 48 30.8%

  • No never have

    Votes: 67 42.9%
  • Total voters
    156
Fatboy

Fatboy

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I have been around pool since 85 with a 14 year retirement from pool rooms, but the years I was in the pool rooms that was all I did all day everyday so I saw alot of everything and people trusted me and would do things openly because i wasnt a stranger thus why I stated my pool room experiences(I never put private biz in the streets-alot of people here know that about me, i'm proud to say). Anyways in the 80's everyone but me it seemed did coke, I am scared to death of it. I havent ever smoked a joint, done acid, meth, crack, anything but I have done ecstasy several times in my life and you learn alot about your self, doing it at home not in a club. And until my back went bad pain pills, they were fun for the first 2 weeks now I hate them but have no choice. I noticed alot of pills in the pool rooms these days EVERYWHERE I go, it seems to be the new pool players drug of choice. Everyone has a reason, I have a 14" long scar to prove my reason and I will be off them the day I get pain free I hate them. I hardly ever drink i havent got drunk since 99, I dont like booze. I did all the roids when I was bodybuilding and believe me pain pills are 50X worse, the media has the roid thing all blown out of porportion.

So all this lead me to wonder who here is on drugs? booze dosent count. Dosent matter if you need them or not I just wonder what % of pool players, rail birds, degenerate AZ'ers(me) etc. take drugs for what ever reason. This isnt to judge people, belittle pool players, I do and admit it, I have no choice, I didnt put an option "no I never will" because I said that then my back problems changed that. I will never do coke, meth etc. But yes I'm a drug user not an abuser.

I hope this poll dosent upset anyone, but from what I have seen since 85 the % has to be high(no pun). Personally I dont have a problem with anyone using drugs as long as they dont push them on me or do bad things for Drug $$$.
 
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My only advice to drug users in pool halls (coming from someone who is drug-free - my brother has a terrible drug addiction and it's awful and has ruined his life):

EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR DOING IT

Please for the sake of your dignity - don't make it so public.
 
Big money/Hard drugs not so much. the speedier stuff like meth and coke just gives ya a twitch and decreases muscle focus..

but 2 or 3 beers, or a few bats of decent green can and does calm the nerves and softens out an erratic stroke. and makes you more fluid,

but too much, like the 18th or 19th beer you lose muscle control... thats true for me , but I do know a few guys who get better with heavy drinking... like 7 or 8 tall and heavy mixed drinks. and they don't miss ... I believe they are a very small minority but they do exist.
 
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My only advice to drug users in pool halls (coming from someone who is drug-free - my brother has a terrible drug addiction and it's awful and has ruined his life):

EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR DOING IT

Please for the sake of your dignity - don't make it so public.
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I no longer have a brother due to drugs...

I smoked a little weed in HS, and a few hits of LSD late in HS and a few years after. Took speed playing ball throughout HS and college...Nothing now. I rarely have a drink, and probably haven't had more than 3 in one day in YEARS. I like to think I just outgrew that stuff, but it makes friends that still get hammered or get high upset, and they think I'm either looking down on them for it, or think that I think I'm better than them or something....??? I don't care what they do, but apparently they care that I don't DO. That's the thing that I don't get. :confused:
 
softshot said:
Big money/Hard drugs not so much. the speedier stuff like meth and coke just gives ya a twitch and decreases muscle focus..

but 2 or 3 beers, or a few bats of decent green can and does calm the nerves and softens out an erratic stroke. and makes you more fluid,

but too much, like the 18th or 19th beer you lose muscle control... thats true for me , but I do know a few guys who get better with heavy drinking... like 7 or 8 tall and heavy mixed drinks. and they don't miss ... I believe they are a very small minority but they do exist.
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unless your Bobby Pickle...he cant make a ball til he's had a case ;) I hope he is feeling better, I like his style. He is a funny guy, kinda like Keith once you meet him you wont forget him, in a good way. Props to Pickle!!!
 
DOnt let the name or the sig line fool ya...
I havent touched a drug in VERY long time ...

I actually joined the force,(one of many reasons) to get out of town...I was too deep in stupid shit and had to bolt far and fast... and the ticket to Germany for "free" was a good deal.

After I joined I thought I was free and clear...but then I found out that Amsterdam was a few hours down the road..not for the smoke.. but they had the most wonderful shrooms....

There isnt a drug out there that I havent used at some point..save for anything with with a needle, cant touch that stuff same went for rock.

I tried them all, but never really stuck on anything....I most enjoied the trips with a little smoketo mello it out..that shit was a riot.

I guess getting married, having kids, turning 30 have all taken the place of those times.. Havent touched a drug in .. dont even remember the last time... 5 years maybe..

That being said... to each his own.. if you can support your lifestyle and do what you are suppossed to do (family, work, whatever) and you wanna smoke a L..drop a roll..trip...then do it... It aint so different than getting shitfaced from time to time.... and we accept that as normal
 
Fatboy said:
I have been around pool since 85 with a 14 year retirement from pool rooms, but the years I was in the pool rooms that was all I did all day everyday so I saw alot of everything and people trusted me and would do things openly because i wasnt a stranger thus why I stated my pool room experiences(I never put private biz in the streets-alot of people here know that about me, i'm proud to say). Anyways in the 80's everyone but me it seemed did coke, I am scared to death of it. I havent ever smoked a joint, done acid, meth, crack, anything but I have done ecstasy several times in my life and recommend it to everyone its not addictive and you learn alot about your self, doing it at home not in a club. And until my back went bad pain pills, they were fun for the first 2 weeks now I hate them but have no choice. I noticed alot of pills in the pool rooms these days EVERYWHERE I go, it seems to be the new pool players drug of choice. Everyone has a reason, I have a 14" long scar to prove my reason and I will be off them the day I get pain free I hate them. I hardly ever drink i havent got drunk since 99, I dont like booze. I did all the roids when I was bodybuilding and believe me pain pills are 50X worse, the media has the roid thing all blown out of porportion.

So all this lead me to wonder who here is on drugs? booze dosent count. Dosent matter if you need them or not I just wonder what % of pool players, rail birds, degenerate AZ'ers(me) etc. take drugs for what ever reason. This isnt to judge people, belittle pool players, I do and admit it, I have no choice, I didnt put an option "no I never will" because I said that then my back problems changed that. I will never do coke, meth etc. But yes I'm a drug user not an abuser.

I hope this poll dosent upset anyone, but from what I have seen since 85 the % has to be high(no pun). Personally I dont have a problem with anyone using drugs as long as they dont push them on me or do bad things for Drug $$$.
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Ecstasy & Pills? It's all starting to come into fucus... :D I've never had a problem with anyone smoking weed... If cigarettes & alcohol are legal... then dammit weed should be. Half a million people a year die from alcohol & cigarettes... Someone please find me 1 death directly resulted from marijuana.
 
I Take Something EVERY Day

I refuse to answer the question on the grounds that I may incriminate myself...
Doug






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trustyrusty said:
I no longer have a brother due to drugs...

I smoked a little weed in HS, and a few hits of LSD late in HS and a few years after. Took speed playing ball throughout HS and college...Nothing now. I rarely have a drink, and probably haven't had more than 3 in one day in YEARS. I like to think I just outgrew that stuff, but it makes friends that still get hammered or get high upset, and they think I'm either looking down on them for it, or think that I think I'm better than them or something....??? I don't care what they do, but apparently they care that I don't DO. That's the thing that I don't get. :confused:
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I was alot like you then. I took alot during HS except LSD and anything you shoot and rock of course. Popped alot of pills and smoked a TON. Kinda quit then screwed my shoulder up during the 1st baseball practice of the year so I started back so I could play. Done recreational drugs like grass and pills for a few years after school then quit.

God pays us all back, now I have to live on Percocets and I CANT stand it. Would rather be working, but its either work and risk being paralyzed and killing my pole buddy or sitting at home like I do now. My daily intake is 4 Percocet 10's, 2 Xanax's, 1 or 2 Flexeril 10, and an Ambien for sleep. All is legally prescribed by a pain management doctor and I'm legally disabled at the old age of 27:eek:
 
never done any drugs, never so much as even tried a cigarette tbh. don't feel the slightest inclination to do take something either - i don't slit my wrists, so why should i suck in a burning tube of shit and poison either? drugs make no logical sense to me. and i think they should ban tobacco too, i have tried many times to logic it out and justify it's legality and prevalence in society but i can't. it's of absolutely no benefit to society, only harm, yet because we've grown used to it we excuse it. time breeds moral apathy i guess. but as it is there's no reason to allow cigarettes and not heroin, same thing.

and 'recommending' ecstacy is stupid - your body effectively flips a coin (pun not intended :P) everytime you take it. it's hit and miss how you react to it. many people have died from their first pill.

EDIT: Oh and it irritates me when people put alcohol in the same category as other drugs. The only way alcohol can harm you is to consume it to EXCESS. You don't have one pint of beer and crave another one twenty times a day for the rest of your life. In moderation it's actually good for you. (beer, wine, spirits) you can't say the same for any other recreational drug, including many people's beloved cannabis.
 
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worriedbeef said:
never done any drugs, never so much as even tried a cigarette tbh. don't feel the slightest inclination to do take something either - i don't slit my wrists, so why should i suck in a burning tube of shit and poison either? drugs make no logical sense to me. and i think they should ban tobacco too, i have tried many times to logic it out and justify it's legality and prevalence in society but i can't. it's of absolutely no benefit to society, only harm, yet because we've grown used to it we excuse it. time breeds moral apathy i guess. but as it is there's no reason to allow cigarettes and not heroin, same thing.

and 'recommending' ecstacy is stupid - your body effectively flips a coin (pun not intended :P) everytime you take it. it's hit and miss how you react to it. many people have died from their first pill.EDIT: Oh and it irritates me when people put alcohol in the same category as other drugs. The only way alcohol can harm you is to consume it to EXCESS. You don't have one pint of beer and crave another one twenty times a day for the rest of your life. In moderation it's actually good for you. (beer, wine, spirits) you can't say the same for any other recreational drug, including many people's beloved cannabis.
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FTR.. nobody has ever died from a dose of MDMA..

Most drugs wont hurt you if they are not used in EXCESS...
ALcohol istn any different that any other drug ...used with common sense there isnt a problem.. addictive people well **** up anything.. like abuseing canned air or what ever...some people do actually have a beer and crave it everyday after...

Educated use of drugs is fine...
 
worriedbeef said:
now to me that's just an ironic contradiction lol
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But that is just what you said earlier.. it is actually in agreement with your comment about moderate acohol use as being healthy....


the irony of this disscussion is packed all nice and neatly in to your above comment about irony....

Now, isnt that ironic ?
 
yes but alcohol isn't a drug per se; it's not in the same category as other substances. heck if you eat too many eggs it's extremely bad for you, as part of a healthy diet they are great and have many benefits. you cannot say that about a spliff. or a shot of heroin. or an ecstacy tablet. etc etc.

my point about the irony is simply that no such thing as an 'educated use' of drugs. that's like saying an educated use of decapitating yourself, or an educated use of jumping off a cliff.
 
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yes but alcohol isn't a drug per se; it's not in the same category as other substances. heck if you eat too many eggs it's extremely bad for you, as part of a healthy diet they are great and have many benefits. you cannot say that about a spliff. or a shot of heroin. or an ecstacy tablet. etc etc.

my point about the irony is simply that no such thing as an 'educated use' of drugs. that's like saying an educated use of decapitating yourself, or an educated use of jumping off a cliff.
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Beef, my man you are just on a different world brother.......

Educated drug use in real and applied in every day life a million times a day.

MDMA actually got it's first real exposure as a therapy aid....and is starting to garner the same attention today. The experince of a roll really cannot be explained in words, if have tried it you know what I am takling abut...your mind opens up on levels that you didnt even know existed.

You are completley lucid during the trip and everything sticks with oyu afterward. You walk away with a new outlook and life is somehow eaiser.

now I am not talking about the club kid who drops 6 pills in a night just to get f'ed up. Proper use of the drug is the key, therefore educated use is the most important thing.


I always find it funny when a unknowing non user tosses critics at something that they have never ever even come close to gainning knowledge on ...

Go check out some Dan Stanhope or even our own Joe Rogan....those guys have interesting . and entertaining, ideas about drug use ...

and dont forget the REV. Bill Hicks.....
 
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"ALcohol isnt a drug per se "

How so...??


"not in the same category as other substances."

What categories.......?
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i mean cocaine, cannabis, tobacco, herion, ecstacy etc etc. the reason i worded it as i did is because somebody would no doubt say that the technical definition of a drug is something that affects the normal running of your body, therefore alcohol is just as much as a drug as the other substances i named. but for the many reason i have stated, alcohol is different in my opinion.

and i do see your point about it helping one's outlook on life and helping them broaden their mind, but it is just some sort of quick fix to personal development. there are many more constructive and better for you in the long term ways of improving yourself, without taking drugs 'for the experience'.

my avatar btw is Elizabeth Fraser, a wonderful unique singer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j65v7OqlW6I
 
worriedbeef said:
never done any drugs, never so much as even tried a cigarette tbh. don't feel the slightest inclination to do take something either - i don't slit my wrists, so why should i suck in a burning tube of shit and poison either? drugs make no logical sense to me. and i think they should ban tobacco too, i have tried many times to logic it out and justify it's legality and prevalence in society but i can't. it's of absolutely no benefit to society, only harm, yet because we've grown used to it we excuse it. time breeds moral apathy i guess. but as it is there's no reason to allow cigarettes and not heroin, same thing.

and 'recommending' ecstacy is stupid - your body effectively flips a coin (pun not intended :P) everytime you take it. it's hit and miss how you react to it. many people have died from their first pill.

EDIT: Oh and it irritates me when people put alcohol in the same category as other drugs. The only way alcohol can harm you is to consume it to EXCESS. You don't have one pint of beer and crave another one twenty times a day for the rest of your life. In moderation it's actually good for you. (beer, wine, spirits) you can't say the same for any other recreational drug, including many people's beloved cannabis.
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I believe 1-2 drinks per day is the "moderation" you speak of, which is good for you. How many alcoholics do you know that drink only 1-2 drinks per day?

What is it about wine that makes it so good for you? Is it the ALCOHOL is or is the grapes, etc.?

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE BEER. Just don't fool yourself into thinking it's the magical drug that can do no wrong, just because it's legal. It's still a drug!

I am sorry to irritate you with this post, but it had to be said. :)
 
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