SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
Great job, looks better than new! Hoping my repair goes as smoothly and looks as good when done.
Thanks, post a picture if you can when yours is done.
Gary just emailed back so I hope to have a set of the soft jaws soon.
Dufferin one piece loose at the center joint
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Thanks, post a picture if you can when yours is done.
Gary just emailed back so I hope to have a set of the soft jaws soon.
Absolutely. The repair for my friends POS cue. I bought a $50(plus shipping) piece of phenolic rolled linen to get a 1 inch piece. Also a few male/female 5/16-14 joint pins. He loves it. I had fun with it....and thanks again for your help.Looks great!
Don't you love putting $100 worth of work into a $20 cue?
Sometimes these jobs can be rewarding in other ways though.
SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
It didn’t fall apart, it just had a very slight movement. It’s an old beater stick that saw some abuse over the years. I’m comfortable with the tolerances that it will stay solid for a long while.
Threading would definitely be more solid and secure, but currently I don’t have the means to thread something like that. I am new to this and being my first try at something like this I kept it simple. It was a favor and good practice.
SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
Well, full disclosure since we are trying to learn here, I had a total failure.
I believe my big mistake was making a tenon from the old broken cue (should have been my first warning). Crappy wood from a Chinese cue duh. Maybe harder wood would have held up, …maybe.
I’m going to try again, but with better wood and probably add a rod or pin to give it more strength because of the hard use it gets.
Lesson learned. That’s how we get better (I hope)
On a better note, I got the soft jaws from Gary Langley so I shouldn’t mess up the finish this time.
I believe my big mistake was making a tenon from the old broken cue (should have been my first warning). Crappy wood from a Chinese cue duh. Maybe harder wood would have held up, …maybe.
I’m going to try again, but with better wood and probably add a rod or pin to give it more strength because of the hard use it gets.
Lesson learned. That’s how we get better (I hope)
On a better note, I got the soft jaws from Gary Langley so I shouldn’t mess up the finish this time.
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Might try using phenolic or micarda both should be stronger than most, if not all woods. I'm not a cuemaker, repairman or anything that has to do with building cues so I'm just throwing it out there for thought.
SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
I didn’t want to have to order some expensive material to fix this cue, so I bored out the broken tenon, made a new one and added a steel rod to reinforce it.
With the new soft jaws, it was easy to keep the finish intact, so I only had to redo the area right at the joint. It blended perfectly so you cannot tell it was redone. Sadly, I forgot to take a new picture of the finished repair so take my word for it that it looks just like it did in the first repair.
With the new soft jaws, it was easy to keep the finish intact, so I only had to redo the area right at the joint. It blended perfectly so you cannot tell it was redone. Sadly, I forgot to take a new picture of the finished repair so take my word for it that it looks just like it did in the first repair.
SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
This cue must be cursed. A guy got pissed about missing shots he thought were good and threw the cue on the ground and broke it. He paid for it of course. It was headed for the trash bin so I intercepted it thinking I could use it for parts.
I had an old shaft that had a very slight warp, but plenty good enough for a house cue. I cut off the broken shaft and set an old pin from the parts bin into the butt. I drilled out the brass insert and put in a plug made from the piece of broken shaft. Just tapped the shaft for the pin ( no brass insert to keep the weight down) and glued it together. No need for a two piece since it is a bar cue.
Let’s see how long it lasts this time.
I had an old shaft that had a very slight warp, but plenty good enough for a house cue. I cut off the broken shaft and set an old pin from the parts bin into the butt. I drilled out the brass insert and put in a plug made from the piece of broken shaft. Just tapped the shaft for the pin ( no brass insert to keep the weight down) and glued it together. No need for a two piece since it is a bar cue.
Let’s see how long it lasts this time.
Ouch... that stick has lived a hard life!
I forgot all about this thread until you revived it.
I ended up getting around to my repair last Oct in order to get it back to my buddy at his birthday party.
Here's the pics....
How I got it....
That aluminum pin went ~4" into the forearm but as you can see, only about an inch into the handle.
This was my fix.....
I had to use that shoulder to make up the length for how much of the handle I had to take off to get to solid wood. Used a fully cured, dense, straight-grained piece of purpleheart for the tenon.
Glued up....
Used West Systems with 10% (by volume) additive for extra strength. The screws were only there to hold it together until the epoxy cured, once cured it isn't going anywhere.
Wrap channel recut.....
Leather wrap (might as well upgrade since we're in it this far).....
Unique's Wrap Magic fixture sure makes these a breeze!
I was happy it turned out well, he had almost forgot about it since I had it so long but his eyes really lit up when he unwrapped it!
It is a McDermott Tournament of Champions that he had won in the 90's sometime I believe. Much sentimental value.
Wish I would have got a couple better finished pictures but seems like I never think to do so.
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It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Great job! It's awesome that you were able to repair a cue with sentimental value!Ouch... that stick has lived a hard life!
I forgot all about this thread until you revived it.
I ended up getting around to my repair last Oct in order to get it back to my buddy at his birthday party.
Here's the pics....
How I got it....
View attachment 759969
That aluminum pin went ~4" into the forearm but as you can see, only about an inch into the handle.
This was my fix.....
View attachment 759970
I had to use that shoulder to make up the length for how much of the handle I had to take off to get to solid wood. Used a fully cured, dense, straight-grained piece of purpleheart for the tenon.
Glued up....
View attachment 759971
Used West Systems with 10% (by volume) additive for extra strength. The screws were only there to hold it together until the epoxy cured, once cured it isn't going anywhere.
Wrap channel recut.....
View attachment 759972
Leather wrap (might as well upgrade since we're in it this far).....
View attachment 759974
Unique's Wrap Magic fixture sure makes these a breeze!
I was happy it turned out well, he had almost forgot about it since I had it so long but his eyes really lit up when he unwrapped it!
It is a McDermott Tournament of Champions that he had won in the 90's sometime I believe. Much sentimental value.
Wish I would have got a couple better finished pictures but seems like I never think to do so.
SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
Nice job. Nice to see another cue saved from the trash bin.Ouch... that stick has lived a hard life!
I forgot all about this thread until you revived it.
I ended up getting around to my repair last Oct in order to get it back to my buddy at his birthday party.
Here's the pics....
How I got it....
View attachment 759969
That aluminum pin went ~4" into the forearm but as you can see, only about an inch into the handle.
This was my fix.....
View attachment 759970
I had to use that shoulder to make up the length for how much of the handle I had to take off to get to solid wood. Used a fully cured, dense, straight-grained piece of purpleheart for the tenon.
Glued up....
View attachment 759971
Used West Systems with 10% (by volume) additive for extra strength. The screws were only there to hold it together until the epoxy cured, once cured it isn't going anywhere.
Wrap channel recut.....
View attachment 759972
Leather wrap (might as well upgrade since we're in it this far).....
View attachment 759974
Unique's Wrap Magic fixture sure makes these a breeze!
I was happy it turned out well, he had almost forgot about it since I had it so long but his eyes really lit up when he unwrapped it!
It is a McDermott Tournament of Champions that he had won in the 90's sometime I believe. Much sentimental value.
Wish I would have got a couple better finished pictures but seems like I never think to do so.
Hard Knock Cues
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Good thread on this but I wanted to throw in I keep a little handheld metal detector that I use to check recycled wood for nails.I always run a strong magnet over the area if I'm going to cut it, especially in a forearm. Not a 100% solution as some stainless steels are non-magnetic, but I seem to get lucky the majority of the time. Most of the cheaper cues just use steel screws in that area. Saved me a few saw blades!
A magnet won't pick up brass, aluminum, stainless steel, and other precious metals but the metal detector will sense them.
I think it was under 30 bucks when I bought it.
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Excellent! I think I will get one of these. Found one on Amazon for $20. I'm thinking it will be useful for a few things.
I have a Garrett Pin Pointer that would work perfectly for this. Why I never thought of it is anyone's guess.
Great idea, thanks for mentioning it! Much more accurate than using a magnet.
You can loosen the collet and add thin sheets of whatever (regular paper, matchbook covers, etc.) to help center the piece being turned. I set the dial indicator up rotate to the high side and insert something there. Works pretty good.
Hard Knock Cues
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I do this with an old check book that has the carbon copy page, two different thicknesses and to fine tune I use cigarette papers. A good tip out of Cue mans book.
DeeDeeCues
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They also sell plastic shim stock.