Earl

Marissa,

Who cares what is going on in Earl's head? If he has problems that prevent him from being a professional then he shouldn't play. He should have withdrawn from the tournament and not allowed anyone to pay money to see him, not allowed anyone to bet on him and went and gotten himself taken care of.

Earl is NOT a nice guy. He is a jerk and continues to be a jerk. Yes, he has his nice moments as do all bipolar manic depressives. In my opinion, his only redeeming quality is Diana Hoppe, who loves him. She apparently gets to see the Earl that us fans wish we could see. (minus the nekkid stuff thank you).

John
 
"Earl" dumped me

Sweet Marissa said:
I think everyone who has something bad to say about Earl needs to lay off. None of us can possibly know what's going on in his head or what's going on in his life. He's a great player and a good person.
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Hi S. M.,
It does not matter to me what goes on in EARL's head; but when he cost me a $825 loss in an auction because he dumped in the Tournament."NOW THERE IS A PROBLEM".

See you 10/17-23/05, "Have a nice day"

Lamar
 
Could someone who watched this match explain what happened and what Earl actually did?
 
onepocketchump said:
Marissa,

Who cares what is going on in Earl's head? If he has problems that prevent him from being a professional then he shouldn't play. He should have withdrawn from the tournament and not allowed anyone to pay money to see him, not allowed anyone to bet on him and went and gotten himself taken care of.

Earl is NOT a nice guy. He is a jerk and continues to be a jerk. Yes, he has his nice moments as do all bipolar manic depressives. In my opinion, his only redeeming quality is Diana Hoppe, who loves him. She apparently gets to see the Earl that us fans wish we could see. (minus the nekkid stuff thank you).

John
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Does this mean that Earl is dating Diana Hoppe?
 
I'll Try This Again

Sweet Marissa said:
I think everyone who has something bad to say about Earl needs to lay off. None of us can possibly know what's going on in his head or what's going on in his life. He's a great player and a good person.
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AZ blocked my last post. "Will try again".
Hey S. M.,
Ask M.J. to point me out if you come to ATL. 10/17-23/05, at that time I will explain, to you, my problem with the "Pearl".

"Have a nice day",
Lamar
 
PoolBum said:
Could someone who watched this match explain what happened and what Earl actually did?
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I don't think Earl dumped the match at all.

Ralph was just closing him out of the game with very solid professional play. He didn't run many racks, but he won nearly all the strategical battles. He was in a zone of focused concentration and just doing more than Earl could handle.

So Earl started with his antics, trying to become the center of attention by sitting in weird positions, looking away from the table and going to sleep.

When this didn't have any effect on Ralf's game, he started to walk around the table talking when he had a shot, acting like he was just playing without care.

He made a couple of mistakes, but also made a couple of fine outs, and the atmosphere was changing. He was putting pressure on Ralf by acting like he wasn't even taking the game seriously.

To me his behavior is completely bad sportsmanship.

And then for him to openly belittle Ralf's game in the post match interview, after he was outclassed by a hard working, hard thinking and well mannered professional opponent. Fact is Earl is clearly delusional and a self-centered fool at times.
 
sjm said:
Unfortunately, AZB has customarily been the world capital of Earl apologists. I've lost count of how many times people post that because he's a great and often entertaining player, that we shouldn't judge him harshly. Many others suggest that because he's a decent guy when not playing a match (and I quickly admit he's always been nice to me) that this should weigh in his favor.

There's no room for this kind of behavior in the pro ranks. Same old Earl. One of the all time best AND one of the all time worst. Sometimes, I'd swear it seems that's the way he wants to be remembered.
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I will agree that Earl is the best 9-ball player at this time, after all he is the only player to win the U.S. Open 5 Times.
"Have a nice day"
Lamar
 
lamar25 said:
I will agree that Earl is the best 9-ball player at this time, after all he is the only player to win the U.S. Open 5 Times.
"Have a nice day"
Lamar
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and he was won the world championships more times than anyone, i think. he's defintiely one of the top 5 9-ballers ever. but not one of the best at this time.

according to AZ, this year he's #17 in earnings and hasn't won an event, last year not even in top 20 and no wins, year before, #10. he hasn't done much lately except in terms of gimmicks (glasses, glove, finger extensions).
 
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earls heart

colin, lamar is not talking about the us open match. hes talking about a match at the viking tournament in marietta ga. lamar paid a hefty price in calcutta for earl. i was there and i know what lamar is talking about. earl did quit. he raked 6 and 8 balls three times in i match. did all his usual bitching about jump cues and his favorite saying that day was these players today are afraid to lose. meanwhile lamar had to sit and watch earl give away his money. is earl a great player? once yes now only on rare days. earl has been very nice to me away from the table but he just dosent get it in the pool room anymore. jmho
 
Desperation ...

It is quite obvious to me that Earl feels a desperation inside
that he can not shake. Once the famous hero High School
quarterback that won the State Championship and enjoying
the noteriety from it for many years. He now finds that the
competition level much higher, can not make the 'big plays'
anymore, and has to do other things to try to gain an edge
over his opponents, but it is not working so good anymore.
I think there was a movie along these lines called Everybody's
All American, starring Dennis Quaid. Earl, although talented,
is feeling desperate, losing his touch, losing the winning edge,
maybe having to eat $1 hamburgers from McDonalds, and
maybe he just doesn't know how he is going to shake that
always there feeling.
 
lamar25 said:
AZ blocked my last post. "Will try again".
Hey S. M.,
Ask M.J. to point me out if you come to ATL. 10/17-23/05, at that time I will explain, to you, my problem with the "Pearl".

"Have a nice day",
Lamar
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That's fine, but I do look forward to meeting you in Atlanta regardless :)

What was your last post? (PM it to me.)
 
Well.. Allow me to give you an example of your 'classy' gentleman Ralf Souquet..

I was watching a match between Ralf and another player this past May at the BCA. Ralf was up a few games, and he took a break. Whilst Ralf was out doing whatever it is he does on his break, his opponent stayed at the table and hit balls around. Ralf comes back and yells, "Hey! You're not allowed to play!" and gave him the glare of death. I've heard that about Ralf - that most of the players don't really like him that much.

As for Earl.. Yes, he's the same when he's not playing a match. But he always gathers a crowd when he's ranting. In Vegas, he was upset with the side break. I don't understand that, because Earl has won MANY tournaments breaking from the side..

But, he's still my favorite player to watch. Last night, he didn't care. And he still ran out when he had to, and shot something like .890. Ralf just didn't miss a ball. Well.. maybe one..

-Mark
 
What happen

PoolBum said:
Could someone who watched this match explain what happened and what Earl actually did?
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He ran out in rack 1 and on his second shot in game 2 he missed a straight in side shot and from that point on it was down hill. He imediately started talking to the crowd and seemed like he just left the building and didnt care any more.Ralf took over and earl just put his head down and went to sleep. He could not make a ball on the break and he even had ball in hand one game and didnt even know it because he refused to watch ralf play. I love earl,one of the best ever,but after the match he crossed the line big time,I dont think it was a good time for accustats to put a microphone in front of him so they deserve some heat here also.then he went to the chart room and really went off calling Ralf a creature and he couldnt stand to watch a creature shoot pool.Totally classless,He needs help big time.A sports shrink might be able to help him get past his personal feeling on players and there styles so he can get back to the level he was if there's anything left! Also,its 95 degrees here and Earl shows up with long sleeve sweat shirt with a gloves on both hand(the right hand glove looked like a ski glove)!! His earlier match he tore the glove off saying it was too hot to play with and show's up against ralf on the feature table wearing the same glove.All he needed was his sports glass's from yester year and he would have been in perfect atire for his next trip to Vail !
 
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MarkJS said:
Well.. Allow me to give you an example of your 'classy' gentleman Ralf Souquet..

I was watching a match between Ralf and another player this past May at the BCA. Ralf was up a few games, and he took a break. Whilst Ralf was out doing whatever it is he does on his break, his opponent stayed at the table and hit balls around. Ralf comes back and yells, "Hey! You're not allowed to play!" and gave him the glare of death. I've heard that about Ralf - that most of the players don't really like him that much.

As for Earl.. Yes, he's the same when he's not playing a match. But he always gathers a crowd when he's ranting. In Vegas, he was upset with the side break. I don't understand that, because Earl has won MANY tournaments breaking from the side..

But, he's still my favorite player to watch. Last night, he didn't care. And he still ran out when he had to, and shot something like .890. Ralf just didn't miss a ball. Well.. maybe one..

-Mark
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There's nothing not classy about Ralf telling somebody not to practice during a timeout - that's a rule. All players are told during the players' meetings that practicing during a timeout is a no-no. You don't see hitters taking batting practice during a mound conference, you don't see two guards practicing three-pointers in basketball during a TV timeout, and you don't see receivers practicing routes on the football field during a timeout. Those things are supposed to be done before the game starts - it's called preparation. Ralf is a consummate professional, he's always properly prepared to play, and he would NEVER practice during a timeout because there's a rule against it. His having the same expectation of another player doesn't show a lack of class, it shows that he holds himself to a high professional standard and expects/demands the same from others. That doesn't deserve derision, that deserves RESPECT.

Ralf is not a favorite among players because he generally keeps to himself during a tournament, doesn't hang out with the other players much, can play a little slow at times, and the main reason is that he always brings it - he always plays at a high level. There isn't a pro player who would EVER say Ralf is not "classy." The same definitely CANNOT be said about Earl.

-djb
 
I understand your point and I agree.

But, you also never see a pro athlete (Shaquille O'Neal) calling travelling on himself because the referee didn't see it.

An offensive lineman doesn't grab a referee's flag and throw it and admit that he held someone, because the referee didn't see it.

A baseball pitcher will never contest a strike, claiming it was really a ball, because the umpire didn't see it.

Someone stealing a base won't get up and admit that he was really out, because the umpire mistakenly called him safe.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out why Earl is such a *JERK* when he didn't call a foul on himself during the skins game (when he moved the 5-ball with his cuestick)...

Just recently in a WPBA ESPN televised event, Karen Corr was preparing to jump a ball with Steve Tipton STANDING RIGHT THERE. On the way up, the cueball *clearly* nicked the interfering ball. Karen looked at Steve with an 'oops' look on her face, but said nothing. Steve Tipton said nothing. Karen walked back to her chair as if she made a good hit. Why is she not 'totally unsportsmanlike'?

Just curious... (no flamewar intended.. I saw what happened when Shane made his 'age' comment.. lol)
 
DoomCue said:
There's nothing not classy about Ralf telling somebody not to practice during a timeout - that's a rule. All players are told during the players' meetings that practicing during a timeout is a no-no. You don't see hitters taking batting practice during a mound conference, you don't see two guards practicing three-pointers in basketball during a TV timeout, and you don't see receivers practicing routes on the football field during a timeout. Those things are supposed to be done before the game starts - it's called preparation. Ralf is a consummate professional, he's always properly prepared to play, and he would NEVER practice during a timeout because there's a rule against it. His having the same expectation of another player doesn't show a lack of class, it shows that he holds himself to a high professional standard and expects/demands the same from others. That doesn't deserve derision, that deserves RESPECT.

Ralf is not a favorite among players because he generally keeps to himself during a tournament, doesn't hang out with the other players much, can play a little slow at times, and the main reason is that he always brings it - he always plays at a high level. There isn't a pro player who would EVER say Ralf is not "classy." The same definitely CANNOT be said about Earl.

-djb
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Well said.
 
I can't see how Earl totally lost his nerve from just missing one shot, an easy shot, early in the set. He never recovered from his own misstake. Efren would have laughed it off. I would expect this from any professional.

And if Earl doesn't like Ralph for whatever reason, what better way to get at him then by beating him. I think Earl can't stand to lose to Ralph and he would rather say he lost because he didn't care or try, then to say he lost because Ralph played better than him. Totally unprofessional.

I watched four players last night. Efren, Gabe and Ralph all played super pool, high quality pool and looked like true professionals. Earl looked like a spoiled little brat who couldn't keep still and can't hold his own against the best in the world anymore.
 
efirkey said:
I can't see how Earl totally lost his nerve from just missing one shot, an easy shot, early in the set. He never recovered from his own misstake. Efren would have laughed it off. I would expect this from any professional.

And if Earl doesn't like Ralph for whatever reason, what better way to get at him then by beating him. I think Earl can't stand to lose to Ralph and he would rather say he lost because he didn't care or try, then to say he lost because Ralph played better than him. Totally unprofessional.

I watched four players last night. Efren, Gabe and Ralph all played super pool, high quality pool and looked like true professionals. Earl looked like a spoiled little brat who couldn't keep still and can't hold his own against the best in the world anymore.
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What earl doesnt realize is that people go out of there way to get a good seat and get all hiped up about a match that should really be a honor to watch in person and then 10 minutes in he's dumping! If he hates ralf that should be all the more reason to bear down and want to beat him. The feature table was standing room only and thats because as a fan,Earl is a player that is special to watch,but now the fans come out to see exactley what he did,and that to show his behind!
 
Players call fouls on themselves all the time in Snooker, just an example of how correct sportsmanship can prevail.
 
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