Early Adam Cue Question

What a shame to put a handle on a full splice - guess it probably warped, so no choice.

I have a Burton Spain fullsplice being worked on by that Famous Florida maker, not Showman, although I did tell him he could pick it up from Dennis and build whatever he wants with it...with my approval of course lol
Half empty/half full. I was appreciating the fact that it was a full and not a half splice/inlay. Even worse, I have learned some folks use decals.
The more I see, the more I learn.
 
Spain, Davis, Balabushka, and more masters regularly did it.
Yep. I believe it's useful to start with a full splice even if you want to cut it for an A-joint, because you can get the points really tight at the wrap or rings above the wrap. More recent makers with that technique I believe included Rauenzahn and Hercek.
 
Yep. I believe it's useful to start with a full splice even if you want to cut it for an A-joint, because you can get the points really tight at the wrap or rings above the wrap. More recent makers with that technique I believe included Rauenzahn and Hercek.
Hence the Bushka ring. I think Rambow fathered the idea, more to do with balance. GB himself cut a lot of Titlist full splices.

Lots of ways to skin that cat. Obviously a true full splice is a magnificent thing, but if done with ebony it can be pretty heavy too.

I think the evolution and variety of construction is interesting. I don't really disparage any methods.
 
Ebony full splices were heavy, as were Brazilian rosewood. The train of thought is that the splice appearing under the handle was to allow a maple sleeve to lighten the cue and extend it for rings etc... This makes sense, IMHO. Spain covers some of this in his booklet along with A-joints and the like. It would make sense that Adam and National/Gandy shared some commonality as Helmstetter, Meucci, Cervantes I am sure overlapped.

JV
 
Interesting later model with a solid nod to traditional designs. Personally, I would lean toward this: LINK

The case included in your link was branded by Murray in 1988. CC-100 Deluxe Custom. The cues in that catalog were made by Viking. I assume the cases were Asian made.

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Ebony full splices were heavy, as were Brazilian rosewood. The train of thought is that the splice appearing under the handle was to allow a maple sleeve to lighten the cue and extend it for rings etc... This makes sense, IMHO. Spain covers some of this in his booklet along with A-joints and the like. It would make sense that Adam and National/Gandy shared some commonality as Helmstetter, Meucci, Cervantes I am sure overlapped.

JV
This is part of what attracts me to that era and certain makers. These connections, the lineage, the associations, the history. There was so much happening. Hold on a minute...you got me going. LOL!

That's how I ended up focusing on National/Gandy, end of 60's early 70's. The designs, construction, materials, and seeing the history in the physical cues themselves. Variations on models, models that I can't find in any catalog, maybe customs.

I got the idea to do what Tate did and reproduce the 10 cue Gandy catalog like he did the Palmer catalogs. I have 15 cues, but because of doubles, triples, etc., I still need 3 cues to have a complete set, 5 if you notice my comments below. I also have some interesting variations not seen in the known Gandy or National catalogs.

I am still looking for the ones in red.

Model #HC-80 0

MODEL #HC-100 0


MODEL #HC-110 4 (Have several variants)

MODEL #HC-115 1

MODEL #HC-120 1 (Have 1987 version, still need early example)

MODEL #HC-135 0

MODEL #HC-140 1 (Prized ebony Titlist conversion, would still like a standard Titlist example for the catalog pic)

MODEL #HC-145 2

MODEL #HC-150 2

MODEL #RG-1000 4 (Have several variants)

One of the general things this adventure has taught me so far is that the more plain cues are harder to find. They don't stand out and likely get missed. Probably many got trashed over the years too. Because of this I end up looking at so many plain cues for sale and ask for a close-up picture looking for that aluminum insert. I have bought 2 or 3 plain cues cheap that ended up being duds. I also landed one recently for only $15 in an open auction that nobody else bid on, I guess nobody saw what it was. Cue is in great shape and if I was a flipper I would sell it for a really good profit.

I think it's interesting that we started with a question about aluminum inserts on a first year Adam cue and ended up here, talking about so much more. I really love this stuff. Funny thing is that I don't really have much interest in Meucci except where the first cues are concerned and the overlap with Huebler. I have a number of Huebler cues, and exactly one Meucci Original with no plans to look for more.


Eventually, when I do the Gandy catalog flyer picture reproduction, I will do detailed pictures and discussions of all of them, including some very interesting variants and possible National versions. My research included discussions and documentation from Dick Abbott, who sold me the ebony Titlist HC-140, as well as numerous web searches and discussions with others, especially here on AZB over the years. I have ended up researching a number of individuals, and even in some cases going through their obituaries and finding pictures of their graves.

I will close with this crop from the June 1971 National Billiard News.

National Billiard News June 1971.png
 
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This is part of what attracts me to that era and certain makers. These connections, the lineage, the associations, the history. There was so much happening. Hold on a minute...you got me going. LOL!

That's how I ended up focusing on National/Gandy, end of 60's early 70's. The designs, construction, materials, and seeing the history in the physical cues themselves. Variations on models, models that I can't find in any catalog, maybe customs.

I got the idea to do what Tate did and reproduce the 10 cue Gandy catalog like he did the Palmer catalogs. I have 15 cues, but because of doubles, triples, etc., I still need 3 cues to have a complete set, 5 if you notice my comments below. I also have some interesting variations not seen in the known Gandy or National catalogs.

I am still looking for the ones in red.

Model #HC-80 0

MODEL #HC-100 0


MODEL #HC-110 4 (Have several variants)

MODEL #HC-115 1

MODEL #HC-120 1 (Have 1987 version, still need early example)

MODEL #HC-135 0

MODEL #HC-140 1 (Prized ebony Titlist conversion, would still like a standard Titlist example for the catalog pic)

MODEL #HC-145 2

MODEL #HC-150 2

MODEL #RG-1000 4 (Have several variants)

One of the general things this adventure has taught me so far is that the more plain cues are harder to find. They don't stand out and likely get missed. Probably many got trashed over the years too. Because of this I end up looking at so many pain cues for sale and ask for a close-up picture looking for that aluminum insert. I have bought 2 or 3 plain cues cheap that ended up being duds. I also landed one recently for only $15 in an open auction that nobody else bid on, I guess nobody saw what it was. Cue is in great shape and if I was a flipper I would sell it for a really good profit.

I think it's interesting that we started with a question about aluminum inserts on a first year Adam cue and ended up here, talking about so much more. I really love this stuff. Funny thing is that I don't really have much interest in Meucci except where the first cues are concerned and the overlap with Huebler. I have a number of Huebler cues, and exactly one Meucci Original with no ppans to look for more.


Eventually, when I do the Gandy catalog flyer picture reproduction, I will do detailed pictures and discussions of all of them, including some very interesting variants and possible National versions. My research included discussions and documentation from Dick Abbott, who sold me the ebony Titlist HC-140, as well as numerous web searches and discussions with others, especially here on AZB over the years. I have ended up researching a number of individuals, and even in some cases going through their obituaries and finding pictures of their graves.

I will close with this crop from the June 1971 National Billiard News.

View attachment 835419
Bravo sir. Good post.

I'm also intrigued by the history.
 
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