Early Stage AI pool commentator

justnum

justnum

Billiards Improvement Research Projects Associate
Silver Member
Get billiards in the AI track. AI discussions on the news is so hot.

The following areas of AI as applied to pool might be worth pursing as a technical exercise.

1) Does billiards need an AI to detect the highly technical shots?
2) AI reproduction of commentators that have passed
3) AI to organize player fields for tournaments
4) AI to identify shots on a table and display in augmented reality.
5) Using AI to create new billiard games.
6) An AI that procedurally generates table diagrams with technical runouts
7) An AI that can effectively predict 3 cushion shots

The new season of BARPA is gearing up and AI is hot as ever this year.
 
I had ai create a new game...Fatboy isn't going to approve with the 5 ball being red!

Certainly! I'd be happy to create a new pool game with a unique set of rules. Let's call this game "Chromatic Cascade." Here's how to play:

Chromatic Cascade​

Setup​

  • Use all 15 numbered balls and the white cue ball.
  • Rack the balls in a triangle, with the 8-ball in the center.

Objective​

The goal is to pocket balls in a specific color order, following the rainbow spectrum: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and finally black (8-ball).

Rules​

  1. Color Groups:
    • Red: 3, 5, 7
    • Orange: 1, 13, 15
    • Yellow: 9, 11, 14
    • Green: 6, 10
    • Blue: 2, 4
    • Purple: 12
    • Black: 8
  2. Gameplay:
    • Players must pocket balls in the rainbow order (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, black).
    • Within each color group, balls can be pocketed in any order.
    • Players continue their turn as long as they pocket a legal ball.
    • If a player pockets a ball out of order, it's spotted (returned to the table), and their turn ends.
  3. The 8-ball:
    • The 8-ball can only be pocketed after all other balls have been legally pocketed.
    • Pocketing the 8-ball before clearing all other balls results in an immediate loss.
  4. Fouls:
    • Not hitting any ball with the cue ball.
    • Pocketing the cue ball (scratch).
    • Hitting a ball from a color group that isn't currently active.
    • Knocking any ball off the table.
  5. Penalty for Fouls:
    • The opposing player gets ball-in-hand (can place the cue ball anywhere on the table).
    • If any balls were pocketed on the foul shot, they are spotted.
  6. Winning:
    • The first player to legally pocket all balls in the correct color order, ending with the 8-ball, wins the game.

How to Play​

  1. Begin with a break shot. Any balls pocketed on the break are spotted, regardless of color.
  2. Players take turns, aiming to pocket the balls from the current active color group.
  3. Once all balls from a color group are pocketed, move to the next color in the rainbow sequence.
  4. Strategy involves planning ahead to leave good positions for the next color group.
  5. Be cautious not to accidentally pocket balls from future color groups.
  6. The game ends when a player legally pockets the 8-ball after clearing all other balls in order.
This game adds a new layer of strategy to pool, requiring players to think ahead and manage the table layout carefully to progress through the color spectrum efficiently.
 
jason said:
I had ai create a new game...Fatboy isn't going to approve with the 5 ball being red!

Certainly! I'd be happy to create a new pool game with a unique set of rules. Let's call this game "Chromatic Cascade." Here's how to play:

Chromatic Cascade​

Setup​

  • Use all 15 numbered balls and the white cue ball.
  • Rack the balls in a triangle, with the 8-ball in the center.

Objective​

The goal is to pocket balls in a specific color order, following the rainbow spectrum: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and finally black (8-ball).

Rules​

  1. Color Groups:
    • Red: 3, 5, 7
    • Orange: 1, 13, 15
    • Yellow: 9, 11, 14
    • Green: 6, 10
    • Blue: 2, 4
    • Purple: 12
    • Black: 8
  2. Gameplay:
    • Players must pocket balls in the rainbow order (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, black).
    • Within each color group, balls can be pocketed in any order.
    • Players continue their turn as long as they pocket a legal ball.
    • If a player pockets a ball out of order, it's spotted (returned to the table), and their turn ends.
  3. The 8-ball:
    • The 8-ball can only be pocketed after all other balls have been legally pocketed.
    • Pocketing the 8-ball before clearing all other balls results in an immediate loss.
  4. Fouls:
    • Not hitting any ball with the cue ball.
    • Pocketing the cue ball (scratch).
    • Hitting a ball from a color group that isn't currently active.
    • Knocking any ball off the table.
  5. Penalty for Fouls:
    • The opposing player gets ball-in-hand (can place the cue ball anywhere on the table).
    • If any balls were pocketed on the foul shot, they are spotted.
  6. Winning:
    • The first player to legally pocket all balls in the correct color order, ending with the 8-ball, wins the game.

How to Play​

  1. Begin with a break shot. Any balls pocketed on the break are spotted, regardless of color.
  2. Players take turns, aiming to pocket the balls from the current active color group.
  3. Once all balls from a color group are pocketed, move to the next color in the rainbow sequence.
  4. Strategy involves planning ahead to leave good positions for the next color group.
  5. Be cautious not to accidentally pocket balls from future color groups.
  6. The game ends when a player legally pockets the 8-ball after clearing all other balls in order.
This game adds a new layer of strategy to pool, requiring players to think ahead and manage the table layout carefully to progress through the color spectrum efficiently.
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What happen if you made AI create training drills or exercises?
 
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I do not desire to hear an AI commentator in sports. If they ever replace English soccer commentators with AI, I'll just pack it in.
 
jason said:
I had ai create a new game...Fatboy isn't going to approve with the 5 ball being red!

Certainly! I'd be happy to create a new pool game with a unique set of rules. Let's call this game "Chromatic Cascade." Here's how to play:

Chromatic Cascade​

Setup​

  • Use all 15 numbered balls and the white cue ball.
  • Rack the balls in a triangle, with the 8-ball in the center.

Objective​

The goal is to pocket balls in a specific color order, following the rainbow spectrum: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, and finally black (8-ball).

Rules​

  1. Color Groups:
    • Red: 3, 5, 7
    • Orange: 1, 13, 15
    • Yellow: 9, 11, 14
    • Green: 6, 10
    • Blue: 2, 4
    • Purple: 12
    • Black: 8
  2. Gameplay:
    • Players must pocket balls in the rainbow order (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, black).
    • Within each color group, balls can be pocketed in any order.
    • Players continue their turn as long as they pocket a legal ball.
    • If a player pockets a ball out of order, it's spotted (returned to the table), and their turn ends.
  3. The 8-ball:
    • The 8-ball can only be pocketed after all other balls have been legally pocketed.
    • Pocketing the 8-ball before clearing all other balls results in an immediate loss.
  4. Fouls:
    • Not hitting any ball with the cue ball.
    • Pocketing the cue ball (scratch).
    • Hitting a ball from a color group that isn't currently active.
    • Knocking any ball off the table.
  5. Penalty for Fouls:
    • The opposing player gets ball-in-hand (can place the cue ball anywhere on the table).
    • If any balls were pocketed on the foul shot, they are spotted.
  6. Winning:
    • The first player to legally pocket all balls in the correct color order, ending with the 8-ball, wins the game.

How to Play​

  1. Begin with a break shot. Any balls pocketed on the break are spotted, regardless of color.
  2. Players take turns, aiming to pocket the balls from the current active color group.
  3. Once all balls from a color group are pocketed, move to the next color in the rainbow sequence.
  4. Strategy involves planning ahead to leave good positions for the next color group.
  5. Be cautious not to accidentally pocket balls from future color groups.
  6. The game ends when a player legally pockets the 8-ball after clearing all other balls in order.
This game adds a new layer of strategy to pool, requiring players to think ahead and manage the table layout carefully to progress through the color spectrum efficiently.
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I like it. Tho to not need new sets of balls, i'd suggest the colors we already have....
Red: 3, 7, 11, 15
Orange: (fatboy approved) 5, 13
Yellow..... well u get it...just use the colors they already are. Lil tougher this way since we have only groups of two after the initial group of 4 but i'd play this.

Perhaps some sort of points based scoring too so one guy doesnt run 13 balls only to lose to the guy who sinks last 2. Maybe u get 1pt for group 1, 2 for grp 2, and so on and then make the 8ball worth 8 or10?

Totally playable game. Thanks for sharing
 
garczar said:
The LAST thing pool needs is this shit.
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Great idea (not):
a pool game that you can lose and the other person never took a turn.

You can tell this is as well thought out as the Harriman academy, the high run society, the saving of pyramid....
 
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