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Golf is more lucrative?
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Hey, Joelpope.
It sure does look interesting when placing the numbers side-by-side -- golf is indeed more lucrative.
At the same time, and as you might know, golf is a much more expensive sport.
It requires significantly higher expenses at the outset:
(although there can be great deals at municipals where one also can merely rent golf clubs for the round)
Golf instruction can be expensive, a la carte.
One could become a member of a team and gain access to practice facilities and lessons in good fundamentals,
but that (most times) requires attending college/university, which can be expensive in its own right.
Beyond these numbers, however, there is a startling similarity:
(In the U.S.) both pool and golf slowly are losing numbers in terms of participation.
The participation is increasing in countries outside the U.S. for BOTH sports.
You can come up with your own conclusions as to why that's the case.
That horse has been beaten up many times in other posts.
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You actually posted the PGA earnings for 2017 as they have a wrap around season and have played 2 or 3 events at the end of 2016 that count towards 2017 earnings.
For 2016 Dustin Johnson was 1st earning over 9 million in just over 20 events played.
100th on the list made slightly over 1 million.
TV sponsors and a legitimate tour will bring big bucks (thanks Tiger for the boom that started in 97).
A better comparison for Pool earnings would be bowling and the PBA.
For 2016 Dustin Johnson was 1st earning over 9 million in just over 20 events played.
100th on the list made slightly over 1 million.
TV sponsors and a legitimate tour will bring big bucks (thanks Tiger for the boom that started in 97).
A better comparison for Pool earnings would be bowling and the PBA.
Here is a link to bowling earnings from this year which are very close to Pool earnings and note they do have a spot on ESPN on sundays I believe for some of their season.
http://www.pba.com/SeasonStats/TotalWinnings/93
http://www.pba.com/SeasonStats/TotalWinnings/93
I agree, drv4.
Good call.
Pro bowling is a better benchmark for pool with respect to earnings.
Although I don't know the numbers myself. Do you?
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Another point of comparison is that pool and bowling are played indoors while golfers have to brave the elements and play in heat and weather.
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What's that got to do with money earned?
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It's obviously a more demanding job, being outside and all
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It would be interesting to compare the top 20 or 25 from 1995, 2005, and 2015.....
I agree that comparing pool earnings to those of bowlers is much more reasonable. Golf has no relationship to pool in that regard.
I also think that throwing SVB earnings into the mix inflates the true issue of pro pool earnings being as low as they are. Leave him out and you might get a more accurate picture.
As for golf being more expensive to play. It sure is. I used to spend an easy five grand a year to play golf and that was at public golf courses, when you counted four rounds a week, cart, balls, and the occasion bag of peanuts. This is only an example, mind you, but I think the point is made.
I don't believe that we, and by we I mean us mere mortals who enjoy playing pool, should worry about what happens at the pro level. They have their thing going on, and we have ours. It should be enough for us to have the local poolroom doors opened every day, and on time. :smile:
I also think that throwing SVB earnings into the mix inflates the true issue of pro pool earnings being as low as they are. Leave him out and you might get a more accurate picture.
As for golf being more expensive to play. It sure is. I used to spend an easy five grand a year to play golf and that was at public golf courses, when you counted four rounds a week, cart, balls, and the occasion bag of peanuts. This is only an example, mind you, but I think the point is made.
I don't believe that we, and by we I mean us mere mortals who enjoy playing pool, should worry about what happens at the pro level. They have their thing going on, and we have ours. It should be enough for us to have the local poolroom doors opened every day, and on time. :smile:
You might as well compare the pay of a CEO running a fortune 500 company to that of a teacher right out of college, as to compare pool to golf.
What???
Brave the elements?? Your not serious are you?
Pool players have to fade all the bad Music (she thinks my tractors sexy) smoke, drunks and poor service from the wait staff and still are expected to run out!
Brave the elements?
Brave the elements?? Your not serious are you?
Pool players have to fade all the bad Music (she thinks my tractors sexy) smoke, drunks and poor service from the wait staff and still are expected to run out!
Brave the elements?
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Not much different than golfers dealing with wind, heat, honking horns, slow players, duffers leaving divots. Each have their challenges. Regardless, one is a game played indoors, one is a sport played outside.
Not surprising there's a difference in pay grades.
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Anybody care to ventue a guess ss to what a non medaling olympic figure skater moght make for a 9mo gig on a touring kids ice show?
Cost for golfers
Almost every good golfer has sponsors and the sponsors find them early so the expenses are off set, even in college, if you can play they find you the Money.
Sure. I'll venture a guess.
The question assumes figure skaters who are accepted as part of an ensemble in
a touring ice show are also-rans in Olympic competition.
I personally don't like the assumption because it isn't true--you ever heard of Michelle Kwan?
She's an Olympic medalist and has many-a-medals in other international events.
She tours, in fact, I think a lot of the pros do.
(They need to supplement their income somehow and recoup all the time, money, energy, and sweat
they expended growing up)
Also, there's no such thing as a pure "kids" ice show.
Ice shows are created with families in mind these days.
A troupe can't survive unless their craft caters to young and old.
Nonetheless, I'll bite..
Okay, a nine-month gig as a touring member of a kids ice show.
I'm going to take a guess--$5,000 to $$20,000--depending on the particular part one "plays."
It's chump-change considering all the practice, traveling, and time away from the home base.
Sounds a lot like a touring pool player.
So, Black-Balled. You have any clearer insight on the numbers?
I'm curious, sir (or maam).
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You do seem to know a bit about it...
You are right, there are star and cast roles.
As i recall, cast was approx 30k/ yr and the stars- more than a few actuall skated in olympics, around 50k.
A decent comparison to pool, i believe...though one of those entertains the public and the other is pool.