Ebay Scam? Pred sneaky

the other things that dont add up is the fact that it has a Le Pro tip, pred. uses Everest or better but it cost extra. second, i dont recall any predators, that dont have a SS joint, having a black collar. (am i wrong on this?) just my .02 cents. thanks,
manuel
 
Yea you can get Predator Sneaky Petes with no collar or SS. Does seem fishy however. What tip came on the original 314? It wasn't an Everest I don't think.
 
Reasons why it could be a scam:
- there is no logo on the shaft.
- the shaft has a longer ferrule.
- the shaft has a collar while the butt does not.
- the shaft is not laminated, its one piece of maple.
- the seller did not specify what shaft is included, just stated it as predator cue, so hes not falsely advertising, to an extent.
- the sticker on the shaft is upside down and its obvious that has been taken off.
- the seller knows about pool cues, by stating its a lepro tip, the weight bolt, etc
- takes paypal, but doesnt?
 
says he gotten screwed by too many buyers.. lol.. now it looks like he is lookin to give somebody else the screwin..
chris
 
geocheren said:
Reasons why it could be a scam:
- there is no logo on the shaft.
- the shaft has a longer ferrule.
- the shaft has a collar while the butt does not.
- the shaft is not laminated, its one piece of maple.
- the seller did not specify what shaft is included, just stated it as predator cue, so hes not falsely advertising, to an extent.
- the sticker on the shaft is upside down and its obvious that has been taken off.
- the seller knows about pool cues, by stating its a lepro tip, the weight bolt, etc
- takes paypal, but doesnt?
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Yea I thought most Predator shafts had like 314 on the shaft? The longer ferrule and different tip makes me think this was redone at some point and maybe the sticker was put back on the shaft to make it look new and legit.
 
well for wat i recall not all predator shaft got the 314 logo on it..the first gen doesn't have 314 on it...longer ferrule that not really sure about that one.... or maybe the shaft was a replacement ? just my 2cent

but the butt does look a real sneaky
 
the shaft is different. bidders should ask for further inquiries. full description of the whole item is absent. it's shady !
 
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too bad this has ended and someone got screwed. but for the record the very first generation 314 shafts came without logos. and they had LePro tips, however they did have a shortened 3/4" ferrule. this information is avaiable @ http://www.predatorcues.com/predator_cues_shaft_evolution.html

as this does have green veneers which is from the first generation sneakies, its completly plausible for the shaft to have a LePro tip, what makes this seem to be a scam is none of the sneakies without a joint came with a shaft with black collar, thats not withstanding it being replaced after market, however this appears to have a 1" ferrule.

it looks like he decided to save some money and stick the 314 on his lucasi and stick the lucasi shaft with the pred butt and put the sticker on it. i feal sorry for whoever won that auction though 175 isnt too teribly bad for a 1st generation pred sneakie but and lucasi shaft if they both in good shap.
 
as a side note, for anyone interested, here's a document i put together to display the differances between the various predator shafts.

predator_shafts.jpg


my referances where:
http://www.predatorcues.com/predator...evolution.html
http://www.predatorcues.com/predator_cues_bk2_demo.html
http://www.seyberts.com/phpBB2/showthread.php?t=4372
http://www.seyberts.com/phpBB2/showthread.php?t=4275&highlight=found
 
Also... in the Q & A he states that the joint is "wood to wood"... yet in the pic of the cue's joint area he has a Predator sticker that is (somewhat) attached that says "Uni-Loc"... wtf??? :eek:
 
cigardave said:
Also... in the Q & A he states that the joint is "wood to wood"... yet in the pic of the cue's joint area he has a Predator sticker that is (somewhat) attached that says "Uni-Loc"... wtf??? :eek:
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Wood-to-wood means the outside of the joint. Uni-loc is the inside of the joint, also called the jointthread. A wood-to-wood joint with Uni-loc does exist. But the picture shown is a wood-to-phenolic joint with a Uni-loc thread.
 
? the shaft

I sent him an e-mail and asked about the shaft cause it didnt look like a 314. all his relpy said was 314. ther is no way it is. but it sold for like 175 anyway
 
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