Eddie Robin's books

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Received email yesterday explaining how my email address was found on azbilliards (er89121@aol.com) and that I supposedly might still have some books leftover from when went out of business in 1997. Also had couple of messages re recent eBay auction in which could only accept PayPal payments (believe that is a new PayPal rule).

Yes, I do have a bunch of SMS books (SHOTS, MOVES, & STRATEGIES) left but few W1P (WINNING ONE-POCKET) books (all of the vastly improved and expanded 1996 edition) but been all out of special signature editions and my P3C books (POSITION PLAY in 3-CUSHION BILLIARDS) for years already. My books are all as received from bindery except for my silver metallic ink signature on cover. As per book sold on recent auction, I've come up with my annual Christmas Sale price of $147 for a SMS but have to charge $187 for the W1P for have not near as many of them left. Prices good until Dec. 20 or until I run out of books. USPS priority-mail shipping, handling, and insurance to USA $12 for up to six books.

As for questions re the several titles been working on since the 90s, I might never manage to get back into publishing. Sorry.

You already know my full name and so please include yours if you should decide to email me re any questions, comments, or whatever; mention city or state as well if wanting either of my books. Provide phone number and best time to call as well if you like.

For a better game, EDDIE ROBIN
 
Some of the Best Books Ever

Eddie, you created a couple of the best one pocket books ever. I wish you were able to publish more.
 
Looking forward to seeing your name in the one pocket hall of fame. Thanks for the lessons Eddy.
 
Here's a bump for you Eddie ,
I'm the one giving your e-mail to folks .
Best to ya ,
Bill
 
Drawman623 said:
Looking forward to seeing your name in the one pocket hall of fame. Thanks for the lessons Eddy.
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Eddie is a pretty humble Fella ,
Last year he had them remove his name from the ballot even though back in the day He beat about everybody that was anybody. And his books are the holy grail of 1P
Go figure !!
 
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Eddie Robin not really so humble!

Eddie Robin not really so humble!

Thanks for the extremely kind words re my being humble and truly sorry to have to disappoint, but your compliment is actually not well deserved. I didn't request my name be withdrawn from H-of-Fame voting because I didn't play well enough upon becoming a player for I'd beaten all that came to play at 9-B, 14.1, or one-pocket and actually did so quite easily. I simply didn't think a person who suddenly improves from being a third-rate player to then play super for ten months only to abruptly quit the game for good should deserve such recognition. One should first prove himself over a substantially longer period. So much for my being so humble!

For a more ethical billiard world,

Eddie Robin

PS: As for the note I once came across re how I'd beaten those top players because of horrible equipment, I've since found two table mechanics [one in Cedar Rapids] who took photos to prove that the Harold Worst pool table was as well built as any ever since the Brunswick Kling model from the 20s. Harold Worst who had quite a bit of pride [deservedly so] wouldn't put his name on it otherwise. Though the finest of tables may play badly once the wrong mechanic gets to work on them, those Harold Worst tables had the thickest slates and heaviest frames for their size of any table ever made in the USA. Shows ya that ya can't believe everything people write (especially those frequently found to be throwing the bull). Obviously, guys like Mexican Johnny, Don Willis, Al Miller, Bugs Rucker, Robert Agins, and Youngblood Washington wouldn't gamble their money on horrible equipment.
 
Niborst said:
Eddie Robin not really so humble!

Thanks for the extremely kind words re my being humble and truly sorry to have to disappoint, but your compliment is actually not well deserved. I didn't request my name be withdrawn from H-of-Fame voting because I didn't play well enough upon becoming a player for I'd beaten all that came to play at 9-B, 14.1, or one-pocket and actually did so quite easily. I simply didn't think a person who suddenly improves from being a third-rate player to then play super for ten months only to abruptly quit the game for good should deserve such recognition. One should first prove himself over a substantially longer period. So much for my being so humble!

For a more ethical billiard world,

Eddie Robin

PS: As for the note I once came across re how I'd beaten those top players because of horrible equipment, I've since found two table mechanics [one in Cedar Rapids] who took photos to prove that the Harold Worst pool table was as well built as any ever since the Brunswick Kling model from the 20s. Harold Worst who had quite a bit of pride [deservedly so] wouldn't put his name on it otherwise. Though the finest of tables may play badly once the wrong mechanic gets to work on them, those Harold Worst tables had the thickest slates and heaviest frames for their size of any table ever made in the USA. Shows ya that ya can't believe everything people write (especially those frequently found to be throwing the bull). Obviously, guys like Mexican Johnny, Don Willis, Al Miller, Bugs Rucker, Robert Agins, and Youngblood Washington wouldn't gamble their money on horrible equipment.
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And your best game was Three Cushions! Maybe you left that out on purpose. Thanks for including me in SMS, even though I can never find the page I'm on. Jimmy and I still laugh about that match when I see him.

I have exactly one copy left of each book. Do you remember when I used to buy them by the case from you? I should have saved all those books. I think I had 100 of each at one time. And they were hard to sell back then. Who knew that they would one day become classics?
 
Re which were my best games

Hi Jay,

My being the USA National 3-Cushion Champion for a couple of years before quitting that game did not make me a world class billiard player. Unlike pool, I'd never reached the level of at least ten of the top international players of those days. I personally believe that I may have reached such levels of play had I continued playing that game for another year or so for I was actually improving most rapidly in the last months before quitting in 1979 to start working on books. Wouldn't you agree that I'm best qualified to know which were my best games? I have had four 3-cushion books 96% complete awaiting my getting back into publishing and so I cartainly have no reason to put down my own 3-cushion game for readers do care about credentials.

By the way Jay, you once wrote about my playing Fats 3-cushion while sitting in the stands at the 1965 Detroit State Tournament and how Fats ran 9 and out on me. I wanted to play him but that game never came off. I not only never played Fats anything, the stands you were sitting in at that tournament didn?t extend to anywhere near the three cushion area. The area having two carom tables was the only area in the place without stands; just a bench and chairs. Even the snooker area had two or three levels. Fats only gave exhibitions in the one area that had more than three levels of stands and they were by a pool table at the opposite end of the approximately 250 foot long playing area.

Ralph Keith of Detroit could tell ya all about it for he won the 3-cushion tournament there and has photos of himself there that prove what I say. The stands fell short of nearest three-cushion area by around 40 feet. I recall talking to Harold Worst about diamond systems right where those stands came to an end. I didn?t enter any tournaments there but managed to beat Ralph a couple of 30-point 3-cushion games the night after he'd won that particular event. We also played in Yorkville, New York City and at Howard and Paulina Billiards in Chicago; Ralph had beaten me as often as I'd beaten him. I was far better at pool than billiards, especially in 1965, but you obviously didn't know that.

For a better game,
Eddie Robin
 
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Hi Jay,

My being the USA National 3-Cushion Champion for a couple of years before quitting that game did not make me a world class billiard player. Unlike pool, I?d never reached the level of at least ten of the top international players of those days. I personally believe that I may have reached such levels of play had I continued playing that game for another year or so for I was actually improving most rapidly in the last months before quitting in 1979 to start working on books. Wouldn't you agree that I'm best qualified to know which were my best games? I have had four 3-cushion books 96% complete awaiting my getting back into publishing and so I cartainly have no reason to put down my own 3-cushion game for readers do care about credentials.

By the way Jay, you once wrote about my playing Fats 3-cushion while sitting in the stands at the 1965 Detroit State Tournament and how Fats ran 9 and out on me. I wanted to play him but that game never came off. I not only never played Fats anything, the stands you were sitting in at that tournament didn?t extend to anywhere near the three cushion area. The area having two carom tables was the only area in the place without stands; just a bench and chairs. Even the snooker area had two or three levels. Fats only gave exhibitions in the one area that had more than three levels of stands and they were by a pool table at the opposite end of the approximately 250 foot long playing area.

Ralph Keith of Detroit could tell ya all about it for he won the 3-cushion tournament there and has photos of himself there that prove what I say. The stands fell short of nearest three-cushion area by around 40 feet. I recall talking to Harold Worst about diamond systems right where those stands came to an end. I didn?t enter any tournaments there but managed to beat Ralph a couple of 30-point 3-cushion games the night after he?d won that particular event. We also played in Yorkville, New York City and at Howard and Paulina Billiards in Chicago; Ralph had beaten me as often as I?d beaten him. I was far better at pool, especially in 1965, but you obviously didn?t know that.

For a better game,
Eddie Robin
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Then it was your twin brother :smile: . Thanks for answering my post Eddie. Best of luck to you getting your new books out there. I really wish you would reprint SMS and WOP. They are the BEST ever! Maybe the two most coveted books on pool ever written.

By the way, the Michigan State Championships I was referring to were in 1963 and were held at the State Fairgrounds. They had a Three Cushion event, One Pocket (Cornbread won), 9-Ball (I think Worst won that one), Straight Pool (?) and Snooker (Worst beat Red in the finals). First time I ever saw Red or Harold play.
 
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Niborst said:
I've come up with my annual Christmas Sale price of $147 for a SMS but have to charge $187 for the W1P for have not near as many of them left. Prices good until Dec. 20 or until I run out of books. USPS priority-mail shipping, handling, and insurance to USA $12 for up to six books.



For a better game, EDDIE ROBIN
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This is a very generous offer Eddie for your books in new condition.

BTW: are you still driving that mustang?

Danny in Portland
 
This AZ Billiards is really great for connecting to old friends

This must be the faster-than-a-speeding-something or other Danny!
Christmas is my favorite holiday for people seem to be most kind at that time of year and so I feel that my prices should be lowest at that time of year as well; it's the good will to men and all that jazz that gets to me somewhat. I'm fairly certain that those two one-pocket titles can't support me much longer for it looks certain that I'll be running fully out of them within another few months.
Seems like more than year since last comm. I certainly hope all going well for ya. Give me a call! Just found your number and left a post-it to call ya tomorrow.
Nope, that car is gone. I truly loved that Mustang and sometimes miss it as if it had life like a live person. It was totalled when got hit by a drunken jerk who was found to be illegally in this country and driving in someone else's car without insurance. Cop caught him as he was running away from the accident; I've been without a car since.
Merry Xmas,
Eddie R
 
jay helfert said:
Then it was your twin brother :smile: . Thanks for answering my post Eddie. Best of luck to you getting your new books out there. I really wish you would reprint SMS and WOP. They are the BEST ever! Maybe the two most coveted books on pool ever written.

By the way, the Michigan State Championships I was referring to were in 1963 and were held at the State Fairgrounds. They had a Three Cushion event, One Pocket (Cornbread won), 9-Ball (I think Worst won that one), Straight Pool (?) and Snooker (Worst beat Red in the finals). First time I ever saw Red or Harold play.
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Jay,

We are definitely talking about the same Detroit same tournament held at the State Fairgrounds which I believe was 1965 but couldn't possibly have been 1963. Recall Harold Worst won the snooker section and Cornbread Red came in 2nd or 3rd. Just found old note based on article in 1966 Bowler's Journal, pg.45 (I have that mag somewhere); "Worst declined to play in 3-C section but won 14.1 and snooker sections of Michigan State Tourn." That article would provide the correct date. That was the State event in which Fats gave exhibitions at one end at the only section that had stands several rows high (10?), nearest 3-cushion table was clear at the other end of the huge place with a single row for seating.

I would certainly have known if Fats played ANYBODY there 3-cushion since I and couple others was trying to get Fats to play ME 3-cushion. It simply couldn't have happened even with someone else. If necessary, though it will be a big job, I'll find the time to get through the thousands of photos I've collected over the years to find one that will prove that the story you provided here simply couldn't have happened; I'll find it sooner or later. Wish I had my stuff better organized!!!

Eddie Robin

PS: I have become aware over the years that there have been three things in short stories found in my W1P book that may not be true (my research continues). I was horrified upon learning about the third just last week for I'd truly believed the original source who was one of the players. Too much baloney and sometimes outright lies in our billiard world and we should all put in an effort to make things right when we can. I've worked quite hard at authenticating such things as much as possible and will certainly provide the truth and apologize to my readers if either of those three stories should turn out phony.
 
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