Efren playing daily in the Philippines

[hang-the-9]

Pretty incredible that Efren would still be a top 10 player in the US at age 67.

I wonder what his Fargo would have been in his prime.

Keep in mind that the Fargo ratings, while having pretty good absolute values on their own meaning they translate between areas, are based on the opponents you play and are linked to. Since he was in the top few players of the era, he would be in the 800-830 range since that would compare him to his contemporaries, along with Archer, Strickland, Hall, Sigel and a few others. Going by the fact that the top players now are at the 800+ level.

Now the question that will never be truly answered is would those players be in the top 10 of the Fargo ratings if the current top 10 players were sent back in time 20-30 years and had the same time on the equipment of that era to get comfortable on, with the knowledge and practice style they put in today. I think if that was the case, the current players would be in the 820-830 as they are now and the top players of the 80s and 90s would be say 790-810. So say Shane would be beating Archer on average 11-8. All guesses though.

 

[hang-the-9]

I legit would love to see this list you speak of if you honestly think Efren at 67 would be considered a top 10 player in the US today.

Off the top of my head I can name:
SVB
Skylar Woodward
Billy Thorpe
Max Eberle
Jeremy Sossei
Tyler Styer
John Schmidt
Justin Bergman
Oscar Dominguez
Corey Duele

Or are you just going off of the championship pedigree that Efren has vs the majority of the American players?

Fargo rate ratings puts him in the top 10 of US. And those ratings are pretty solid for estimating long term performance.

1. Shane Van Boening USA829
2. Mike Dechaine USA799
3. Sky Woodward USA799
4. Justin Bergman USA790
5. Corey Deuel USA778
6. Oscar Dominguez USA776
7. Josh Roberts USA775
8. Tony Chohan USA775
9. Jonathan Pinegar USA775
10. Earl Strickland USA771
11. Billy Thorpe USA771
12. Anthony Meglino USA767
13. Johnny Archer USA764
14. Jeremy Seaman USA761
15. Shane Winters USA758
16. Scott Frost USA758
17. Tyler Styer USA758
18. Max Eberle USA757
19. Shane McMinn USA

 

[Positively Ralf]

are sossei, styer, eberle really over 775 fargorate?

Have no clue but I know about three years or so ago, during a tour of the US, Reyes played Sossei in nine ball and sossei beat him.

 

[BlueRaider]

I legit would love to see this list you speak of if you honestly think Efren at 67 would be considered a top 10 player in the US today.

Off the top of my head I can name:
SVB
Skylar Woodward
Billy Thorpe
Max Eberle
Jeremy Sossei
Tyler Styer
John Schmidt
Justin Bergman
Oscar Dominguez
Corey Duele

Or are you just going off of the championship pedigree that Efren has vs the majority of the American players?

The list is called Fargo Rate.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

The list is called Fargo Rate.

Fargo is town in North Dakota, close to Moorehead, Minnesota. Has nothing to do with Pool.

 

[Jimmorrison]

Uh yeah, well, kinda.

 

[tomatoshooter]

I saw something last week that he's made 2 million in his life on tournament winnings

I wonder how much did he win in money games? I heard when he first came to the US he was making insane money for a couple of months.

 

[skogstokig]

Fargo is town in North Dakota, close to Moorehead, Minnesota. Has nothing to do with Pool.

get him, coco. incorrectly written compound words or brand names have no place on azb forum.

 

[Thunder Thighs]

This probably means something.

pj
chgo

Nah... probably not

 

[Zerksies]

I wonder how much did he win in money games? I heard when he first came to the US he was making insane money for a couple of months.

You could probably double it.

 

[hang-the-9]

Have no clue but I know about three years or so ago, during a tour of the US, Reyes played Sossei in nine ball and sossei beat him.

It was a close match, and any single match is not a good comparison between two good players. My son beat Shaw in a tournament, not really going to compare them day in and day out though, I've beaten Dechaine in a few short races but our ratings are like 250 points apart LOL

I was there during that exhibition match, was fun to watch.

 

[ShootingHank]

He is the greatest of all time.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

He is the greatest of all time.

In Efrin’s (his era,) took 50 years for Schmidt to break Mosconi’s 14/1 Run Record.

 

[westcoast]

I don't understand exactly what the ref is doing on some of the shots when the player is shooting around a ball- is he marking the table in some way?

 

[boogieman]

I don't understand exactly what the ref is doing on some of the shots when the player is shooting around a ball- is he marking the table in some way?

I think in the Philippines it's customary to mark the balls with talc, if it gets bumped accidentally, they put it back. They love their talc there, but it's humid as hell, so it makes sense.

 

[westcoast]

I think in the Philippines it's customary to mark the balls with talc, if it gets bumped accidentally, they put it back. They love their talc there, but it's humid as hell, so it makes sense.

Thanks for the feedback- I couldn’t figure out what the ref was putting on the table

 

[straightline]

In the Barcena clip, ER blows his nose onto the floor. Threw the kid off and ER walked home. Some guy respectfully wiped it up.

 

[ghost ball]

In Efrin’s (his era,) took 50 years for Schmidt to break Mosconi’s 14/1 Run Record.

For gods sake, when will you show some respect and spell Efren’s name correctly. You suck.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

For gods sake, when will you show some respect and spell Efren’s name correctly. You suck.

Chill you got bigger pro blind to deal with, want to not pick.


Hell people butcher pronunciation of my last name, I just reply that me.

Three out of four time yesterday at VA.

You know what it’s no big deal.

 

[Black-Balled]

This probably means something.

pj
chgo

Guess the spit/ swallow conundrum is thereby solved.