Einstein nine

[Cuebuddy]

Tried it yesterday with one of my former students, I love this game; going to shoot with brother now. He is going to play it like it or not.

Be careful it can be very addictive! You will also find that your defense will get good very quickly but so will your opponents. Therefore your kicking will improve tremendously. Shooting the object into one of the four non target pockets while leaving the cue ball in a place where your opponent cannot "see" it after it has been spotted is one of the best parts of the game.

Have fun and keep us filled in on how its going. I will field all questions if you have them.

 

[poolfire]

hey brother

Guys you just made my day! A non member friend and myself designed this game at least 12 years ago. We played it against each other and on occasion would teach it to others. That's about as far as it went until I met fd_colorado on this board. fd_colorado and I started playing this game and then he started to show it to other players in his area.

fd_colorado then asked if he could write the rules down and we decided to build a web page at the same time. The game has been played a little in Kansas city and the Denver area and by a few members on the East coast.
But for the most part there is little interest in the game.

Einstein Nine is still the only game IMHO that is complete as far as offense, defense, banking, and strategy! It also seems to be a great spectator game as long as the rail birds know the basic rules. When two players are more or less equal in skill it will generally be decided on who is the better thinker.

It is good to see a thread that has been started by someone other then myself about this game:embarrassed2:.

If I can help out answering any questions let me know.

Here is a link to an earlier discussion about E9.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=160364&highlight=fd_colorado

I still play it every now and then......

 

[PGHteacher]

Be careful it can be very addictive! You will also find that your defense will get good very quickly but so will your opponents. Therefore your kicking will improve tremendously. Shooting the object into one of the four non target pockets while leaving the cue ball in a place where your opponent cannot "see" it after it has been spotted is one of the best parts of the game.

Have fun and keep us filled in on how its going. I will field all questions if you have them.

I was going to ask if this was legal in ninestein.

 

[Cuebuddy]

I still play it every now and then......

I would love to see how good you are playing now. I am still hurting after the lesson you gave me

I was going to ask if this was legal in ninestein.

Yes and like I said its a big part of your strategy. Forcing your competition to kick towards the nine is another good way to score points. Contacting the cheese early has a big penalty.

 

[fd_colorado]

I'd be game to give it a try, but I'm a little skeptical. I'm not sure they thought this through. "What if we mixed 9 ball with 1 pocket?" ...well, you mix the slowest game with the fastest one and you get... something else. For one thing, why are there two winning conditions (make the 9, or make 5 balls in your hole)?

It sounds like it would devolve into both players softly banking the lowest numbered ball towards their hole until one of them sinks it (or puts it so deep in the hole it can't be dug out). And do you hard break or soft break? The breaker has a big edge... with a full rack game you might make a ball in the corner, but with a standard 9 ball rack it's virtually guaranteed. Breaking gives you effectively one free ball in your hole, with little danger of selling out if you bobble it, since the one goes up past the side pocket.

I like to soft break from the opposite side as in traditional one pocket. Although rather than scrubbing whitey along the rack, I try to hit the one ball fuller and bounce it off towards the side rail just above my opponent's pocket.

 

[fd_colorado]

You guys should just play the game a few times. The rules make more sense when you are actually playing the game!

E9 - Quick Start Guide

Rack the balls as in 9-ball.

Pick one of the foot corner pockets to be your pocket.

Break the balls. Player must hit the lowest numbered ball first on each shot.

Player shoots until his shot does not result in a ball in his own pocket or he wins.

4 Ways to Win:
The object of the game is to win in any one of the following (4) ways:

a) A player pockets the nine ball in his designated pocket via a legal shot.

b) A player pockets 5 balls in his designated pocket.

c) A player causes his opponent to commit 3 fouls in 3 consecutive innings.

d) Your opponent pockets a “winning” ball in your designated pocket.

At the end of a player's inning, all illegally potted and owed balls are spotted in numerical order from lowest to highest.

2 Kinds of Fouls

NON-Spotting Foul--
Cue ball table scratch, e.g. no rail, clean miss etc.
= ball in hand for opponent

Spotting Foul--
Cue ball pocketed, or jumped off table, or hitting the 9 first when it is not the lowest numbered ball, etc.
= spot one if you have one, or you owe one if you dont, ball in hand for opponent