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You aim like you aim with center CB hit, only difference you change where to aim OB to, to account for deflection, and english throw and stun throw
Aiming with english means working with squirt and swerve. I don't have an aiming method, but here's a way of visualizing how squirt works if you know your shaft's Pivot Length. The amount of aim compensation estimated this way is the maximum possible - in reality it will almost always be less because of swerve.
pj
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pj
chgo
Yeah I started out with that and had little success. Right now I set out with a center CB hit, and simply pivot to where I want my tip to contact CB. It has improved my potting drastically. Only aiming adjustments I make are for SIT and swerve on longer shots.
I just want to know if anyone uses any quirky or unusual aiming methods for shots with english that I could try out.
I just want to know if anyone uses any quirky or unusual aiming methods for shots with english that I could try out.
The two tips I will give about english are:
1) Don't change your stroke to accommodate it. Instead, move the tip further from, or closer to, the center and use the same stroke you always do.
2) On usual shots, release through each shot the same way each time.
OK - why is the above important? Because using english changes your aim point depending on the speed and spin you generate. Having a reliable stroke you are familiar with will greatly simplify aiming with it.
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If Patrick placed his bridge hand on his pivot point, he would be bridging on the joint!
I think you should bridge where you're most comfortable, and if that happens to coincide with your shaft's pivot point (if you have a common non-low-squirt normal-tip-width shaft), then you'll get some benefit with easier-to-use back hand english for applying sidespin and a little more forgiveness of stroke errors.
I'm not suggesting any method; just how to roughly visualize the squirt/swerve aim compensation for your shaft.
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TheThaiger
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My advice is to buy a Predator and forget all about it. English isn't for us English.
1. You can't go "all the way to the edge of the CB" with any cue - the miscue limit is halfway to the edge.
2. No matter what size tip you use, you have to hit the same distance from center to get the same spin.
pj
chgo
Ok in agreement in principle, hope you agree that
Larger tips tends to produce more deflection on CB.
Yes, I agree they "tend to", but it's important to know the reason so you'll know the exceptions: larger tips tend to produce more squirt because they tend to have more "end mass" (weight in the last several inches near the tip). An obvious exception is Predator's original shafts, which had fat tips that were drilled hollow to be low squirt.
pj
chgo
FYI, several methods for aiming with English can be found here (with supporting resources, including video demonstrations):
Check it out,
Dave
using english
This can be a topic for much 'discussuion'. So, for now, I'll just say this. While I am fairly sure that the scientific parameters can be calculated for each & every shot where english is to be employed, I simply do not have the time to do so in my head or even with a scientific calculator while I am actually playing.
Therefore I believe that once one understands the cause & affects of hitting the cue ball off center, it takes hitting many many shots to experiment & to see the results & to develope the 'feel' & 'touch' for it.
I can not imagine any other way to do it except to trust ones amazing mind & body to develope the skill over time & experience. There are just too many scenarios with too many variabes to attempt to consciously calculate the parameters needed to execute the shots.
All that being said, I would encourage anyone not already proficient with the use of english to experiment with it to learn the capabilities, the difficulty, & the descression of its use.
Just my $0.02 worth humble opinion.
Also, I almost never hit exactly on the horizontal axis as I personally have found those the most difficult to predict where object ball throw is concerned.
As to the question of LD shafts, I have adapted well since going to two(2) of them in June of this year after playing with regular deflection for the last 46 years. That being said, I would suggest an LD shaft to anyone new to learning english, although it is certainly not required. I trust the amazing abilities of the human mind & body.
Regards,
This can be a topic for much 'discussuion'. So, for now, I'll just say this. While I am fairly sure that the scientific parameters can be calculated for each & every shot where english is to be employed, I simply do not have the time to do so in my head or even with a scientific calculator while I am actually playing.
Therefore I believe that once one understands the cause & affects of hitting the cue ball off center, it takes hitting many many shots to experiment & to see the results & to develope the 'feel' & 'touch' for it.
I can not imagine any other way to do it except to trust ones amazing mind & body to develope the skill over time & experience. There are just too many scenarios with too many variabes to attempt to consciously calculate the parameters needed to execute the shots.
All that being said, I would encourage anyone not already proficient with the use of english to experiment with it to learn the capabilities, the difficulty, & the descression of its use.
Just my $0.02 worth humble opinion.
Also, I almost never hit exactly on the horizontal axis as I personally have found those the most difficult to predict where object ball throw is concerned.
As to the question of LD shafts, I have adapted well since going to two(2) of them in June of this year after playing with regular deflection for the last 46 years. That being said, I would suggest an LD shaft to anyone new to learning english, although it is certainly not required. I trust the amazing abilities of the human mind & body.
Regards,
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