Ever Practice This Shot?

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DrCue'sProtege

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was just wondering if any of you maestros out there ever practice making this type of shot? when i do it seems like i have a tendency to hit one of the two balls (in this case the 3 & 5). seems like i might be focusing on "missing" those balls rather than "making" the 1 ball.

and what do you guys think about this shot as a practice idea? helps your straight in shot, helps you maintain focus, you can practice the three main shots here (follow, stun, draw). i have less success when i shoot this with a draw stroke.

DCP

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That's a good idea...I often practice long, straight in shots but never thought to add some "distractions".

Here's a funny pair of shots that came up in a friendly game of 8-ball over the weekend. Another way to focus your stroke! The 8-ball never moved on either shot.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@4BJaQ3GGvb3...kEAX3kFpK4kbfM4kRPl4kQii4lQRk4lLFF4lbPW4lIco@

EDIT: I've highlighted the word "friendly". No, I would not shoot these shots for any cheese.
 
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mosconiac said:
That's a good idea...I often practice long, straight in shots but never thought to add some "distractions".

Here's a funny pair of shots that came up in a friendly game of 8-ball over the weekend. Another way to focus your stroke! The 8-ball never moved on either shot.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@4BJaQ3GGvb3...kEAX3kFpK4kbfM4kRPl4kQii4lQRk4lLFF4lbPW4lIco@
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There's no way I would have shot either of those. You must have balls of steel.

DCP, I think you're right about putting your focus in the wrong place. When you have to make a ball past another ball, you decide which part of the pocket your ball goes in, and then focus only on putting your ball in that part of the pocket. When you shoot, you should have already put the obstacle balls out of your mind completely, focusing only on your OB and the perfect spot in the pocket you're aiming at.

-Andrew
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
was just wondering if any of you maestros out there ever practice making this type of shot? when i do it seems like i have a tendency to hit one of the two balls (in this case the 3 & 5). seems like i might be focusing on "missing" those balls rather than "making" the 1 ball.
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I was just gonna mention that and then I read your post, it's very easy to clip a ball if you move any of your concsiou thought to them becuase then your unconcsiou controls are no longer singularly focused on making the ball and playing correct postion.
 
Andrew Manning said:
There's no way I would have shot either of those. You must have balls of steel.


-Andrew
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Why not? You've got half a pocket and you're not that far from the object ball. And after all, what else are you gonna do in that situation?

Here on St. Thomas, the bar rules are that you can't carom off the eight ball, so I have often had to shoot shots like that for the cash--clean!
 
Not really but I do practice it with no space to pass.

Line up the shot. Place both balls exactly the width (or less) of a ball and about 1 foot from object ball. I then jack-up and spike the cue ball causing it and object ball to hop off bed of table. Now this is a worthwhile shot and can get you out of all sorts of problems. It also hones your accuracy with elevated bridge.

Nick

http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AFRu4BAdm3CCYK4PRpr4UFRu4UFRv3Ucpr3Ucpr3Ucpq4kRpr4kHVm4kHVm4qNpbElevate_cue_to_about_30_degrees_and_cause_cue_ball_to_jump_a_little_of_table.__&ZZ3rMemObject_ball_jumps_over_edge_of_interferring_balls_and_lands_here&ZZ1uBWA@
 
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VIProfessor said:
Why not? You've got half a pocket and you're not that far from the object ball. And after all, what else are you gonna do in that situation?
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You've got half a pocket, but grazing the 8 on the way in probably means pocketing the 8 from either of these locations, and on a 4.5" pocket, half a pocket means a 0mm margin of error. Name me a player who can consistently hit an OB into a pocket with 0mm error, and I'll call you a liar. On a 4.5" pocket, the shot on the 2 can't even be made except by going off the far point, into the back of the 8, and then into the pocket. With a looser pocket it's technically possible, but extremely unlikely.

What I would do in that situation is make the 2-13 combo softly to leave the 2 near the end rail. Then the 9 doesn't have a pocket, and you have an easy runout from anywhere on the table if he leaves you an open shot. Of course he'll try not to leave you an open shot, but the odds are against him. Maybe he'll try to play for the runout including a bank on the 9, but the odds are against him then too, especially since he'll have to shoot a ball or two in that pocket past the 8.

-Andrew
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
was just wondering if any of you maestros out there ever practice making this type of shot? when i do it seems like i have a tendency to hit one of the two balls (in this case the 3 & 5). seems like i might be focusing on "missing" those balls rather than "making" the 1 ball.

and what do you guys think about this shot as a practice idea? helps your straight in shot, helps you maintain focus, you can practice the three main shots here (follow, stun, draw). i have less success when i shoot this with a draw stroke.

DCP

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If your clipping another ball shooting this shot, Make sure you use center ball, and that your hitting it dead center, I bet alot of the times you missed you hit something other than through the center of the ball, High or low, doesnt matter but you need to stay away from the side of the cue ball.


SPINDOKTOIR
 
i aim these type shots a different way. if faced with this scenario, i aim the right edge of the 1 ball slightly towards the left edge of the 5, then use a little right english on the cue ball and throw the 1 ball away from the aim point at the 5's edge and back to center along the centerline of the space between the 5 and 3. i know it sounds confusing but the point is to aim at a definate point and then move the ball away from it back on line with the pocket. this eliminates trying to hit the ball with centerball which we all know is hard to do at all let alone when a setup such as this is fronting us. using english is more forgiving when you pracice using it. i do this allot also even if there are no balls there. i just aim at one of the edges of the pocket and throw the ball slightly back to center.
 
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