Eye Dominance causes this problem.....

genomachino said:
As a general rule the players that find that they are opposite eye dominant with the circle or pointing test are usually right. About an 80/20 % correct.

It's the players that think that they are right eyed and right handed or left handed and left eye dominant that the test sometimes absolutely lies to you. With these players it's about 50/50

But there are exceptions to this common rule.

Give me a call Johnny and we'll make sure.

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I have figured out that If I simply change my footing by a few inches it makes all the difference in the world. I figured out Im left eye dominant but I shoot right handed. Shots that I approach from the left of the shot line I usually miss. If I approach the shot from the right of the shot line it brings me back in alignment. I have deduced that looking at the shot from the left side of the shot line was making me use my right eye for sighting, then when I entered my stance, my right eye fell right over the cue and I was off alignment just that quick.

I now sight the shot line and step over to where my left foot is on the shot line THEN enter my stance. It puts me right every time and it also causes my left eye to fall over the cue.

Me and my wife tested this over and over with the same results every time.
 
Ain't that somethin........

Sbrogdon said:
I have figured out that If I simply change my footing by a few inches it makes all the difference in the world. I figured out Im left eye dominant but I shoot right handed. Shots that I approach from the left of the shot line I usually miss. If I approach the shot from the right of the shot line it brings me back in alignment. I have deduced that looking at the shot from the left side of the shot line was making me use my right eye for sighting, then when I entered my stance, my right eye fell right over the cue and I was off alignment just that quick.

I now sight the shot line and step over to where my left foot is on the shot line THEN enter my stance. It puts me right every time and it also causes my left eye to fall over the cue.

Me and my wife tested this over and over with the same results every time.
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Now if you want to find out why this works and learn the whole story all you have to do is call.

Right now you have figured out only one paragraph of one chapter of the book.

I will share 5 years of intense study and findings with you for free.

If I'm busy with another call I will call you back as soon as I'm done.

By coming into the shot from the right you are keeping your right eye from being in the dominant position.

Good Job. Your on the right track.

Even though you only know a piece of the puzzle your results were pretty huge.

I do understand.............
 
Gene really gets it. He has been at this for a long time. First time I heard him talking about it was about 17 years ago....can't remember if it was at his bar or the pool hall that used to be in town. I have seen the people he has worked with and the difference in how they play is amazing.

For those that may ask why I don't sign up...I am one of those special cases...my dominant right eye is messed up, so I have to force myself to use my left eye more than I should. My right eye has limited peripheral vision and I have a tuft that pulls on the blood vessels to the retina and it changes the astigmatism and how that eye focuses depending on blood pressure in the eye. The way I see the table is distorted and sometimes changes shot to shot. Looking at round cue ball, than down table at an egged shaped object ball or double vision/double edge on an object ball messes with ya. I've been dealing with some other health issues (kidney issues) as well. I've been meaning to catch up with Gene when we are at the same tourney or at the hollow to see if he can help when I am ready to take step up and play a little more seriously rather than socially. That may be a bit, still.
 
You're missing out...

If you haven't met or talked to Gene yet take this opportunity before its gone. Talked to Gene today and what a great time I had learning about the eyes. Wish I had met him sooner.

Genes the real deal when it comes to the eye dominance area of pool. If you know what it feels like to be in stroke and play in the zone then Gene can definitely get you back there.

He's a great guy to boot. Lots of fun and engaging conversation with teaching skills to back it up.

Another great guy to have in our sport. I enjoyed the lesson and can't wait to hear about you tearing up the road and tournaments. Enjoy what you do and you'll never work a day in your life, pretty much sums up Gene A.
 
Sbrogdon said:
I have figured out that If I simply change my footing by a few inches it makes all the difference in the world. I figured out Im left eye dominant but I shoot right handed. Shots that I approach from the left of the shot line I usually miss. If I approach the shot from the right of the shot line it brings me back in alignment. I have deduced that looking at the shot from the left side of the shot line was making me use my right eye for sighting, then when I entered my stance, my right eye fell right over the cue and I was off alignment just that quick.

I now sight the shot line and step over to where my left foot is on the shot line THEN enter my stance. It puts me right every time and it also causes my left eye to fall over the cue.

Me and my wife tested this over and over with the same results every time.
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This is definitely a fact and one of the ways I keep my right eye dominant. I walk around the table even if I'm close to the shot to avoid letting my non-dominant eye get in charge. I approach from the right and my right eye sees the shot first. My eyes try to switch dominance when I get tired or distracted, so I don't give them the chance.

SVB does this a lot. He stays slightly off to the side on most shots and moves into his alignment over the cue stick after his eyes have aimed the shot. He also bends over a small amount to avoid moving his head off of the shot line as he gets down.

Other players bend over to look at the shot before they settle into their alignment. It's a good way to keep your head on the shot line and step into your stance while not losing your dominant eye directed gaze at the object ball. MD and Archer do this quite a bit until they get warmed up.

While bending over to shoot, the head/eyes can move off of the shot line and you'll be looking across the shot. By first bending over and looking at the shot you avoid aiming while upright and losing your target as you get down. What? It happens all the time. :smile:

Another method is the Maurice Daly, stand at the table with your stick on the correct shot line. This establishes your aiming alignment and puts your stick in a place where any deviation from this shot line means you've lost the correct alignment. Like a motion sensor, if that stick does anything but move straight back and forth, you've moved off of the line.

The best method is what CJ said about lowering the body into the shot rather than bending over and have your head and/or shoulders move off of the shot line. Nah...too simple!

Best,
Mike
 
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IamCalvin06 said:
If you haven't met or talked to Gene yet take this opportunity before its gone. Talked to Gene today and what a great time I had learning about the eyes. Wish I had met him sooner.

Genes the real deal when it comes to the eye dominance area of pool. If you know what it feels like to be in stroke and play in the zone then Gene can definitely get you back there.

He's a great guy to boot. Lots of fun and engaging conversation with teaching skills to back it up.

Another great guy to have in our sport. I enjoyed the lesson and can't wait to hear about you tearing up the road and tournaments. Enjoy what you do and you'll never work a day in your life, pretty much sums up Gene A.
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Gene is a great guy. Real people and genuinely interested in helping the players. He is adding a ton of knowledge to the game one lesson at a time.

Best,
Mike
 
Just got off the phone with Mike from Jersey..

Left hander, right eye dominant,

I think I got Mike straightened out.

When we started He was having trouble making any 1/4 ball shots to the left.

This was really fun because it was clear how much he was struggling.

Mike played pretty good and quit for 5 years and couldn't get back to the level he played at before.

It won't take him long before he gets there now and play even better. .

Good Luck Mike. Let me know how your doing in a few days.
 
Sorry to those that tried to get ahold of me today............

I'm heading to Denver to play in the Nick Varner Classic. My phone won't work in many of the areas that I go through.

I won't be any more of these until after the tourny.

My body feels like a pretzel but I still got in the car to drive 16 hours to Denver.

Monday i will be doing lessons at Felts in Denver and do some more phone lessons.

Thanks everyone that called and i wish you the best with your new toy.

Perfect Aim..............
 
genomachino said:
Left hander, right eye dominant,

I think I got Mike straightened out.

When we started He was having trouble making any 1/4 ball shots to the left.

This was really fun because it was clear how much he was struggling.

Mike played pretty good and quit for 5 years and couldn't get back to the level he played at before.

It won't take him long before he gets there now and play even better. .

Good Luck Mike. Let me know how your doing in a few days.
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This is Mike from Jersey, finally checking in! I did a phone lesson with Gene

cause what I had read from him coincided with my own theories about why I

was struggling as much as I was. I want to preface my results by explaining

a little about me. Before I stopped shooting pool I was at a point where I rarely

missed a shot and got bored and quit for around 5 years maybe more. When I

came back to the game I had relearn everything and was aiming using my left

eye cause it was more comfortable (I also think in the time that I spent away

that my dominant eye changed from left to right cause I don't remember

sighting with my right eye). In this time that I came back I just memorized how

to aim to miss shots so they would be pocketed because I was using my

non-dominant eye to aim. Recently I came to a standstill cause I couldn't

accurately determine tangent lines of the cue and combination shots were just

out of the question. After seeing that it would take an infinite amount of time to

figure out how to handle these situations I decided to give Gene a call. After

the phone lesson he got me on the right track for sighting with my dominant

eye even though as a left handed player it felt extremely awkward to sight with

my right eye. I have been practicing for a month and half now and am

beginning to see my game start to really take off. His advice is absolutely

priceless and yet so simple. Thank you so much Gene.
 
Talked with Gene last night. I've had a lesson with him before at his house a few years ago. He had me do this new way to check my eyes. And it confirmed that I'm right eye dominant. After doing that test we proceeded to bs for quite awhile. Always nice to talk to him, give him a call if you've got a question.
 
ditto!

gene u described exactly the problem i found withing my game, being left eye dom and right handed. Ive been taking lessons with a local pro erik horliefson he just won the canadian 10 ball div, really great coach and player, he noticed i would get down on the ball way of centre of the shot line, i was never able to see that on my own.

secondly just playing a lot over the last 3 months since i started ive noticed this problem with me. just last night during practice it was all going well i was doing half table pattern play with three and four balls, then i went on to do dr daves drill, from the BU exam, where u place the ob ball in the middle of the table, in front of the side pocket and use a stun shot to hit the targets up table towards the short rail, i was cutting to the right, and honestly i had such a hard time pocketing that ball i was always hitting to thick i was like few inches to the left always hitting the point or rail, really frustrating, meanwhile im pocketing other harder shots on a 10 footer with ease.

gene i think ur doing an awsome job, i did contact u for some phone lessons and u did get back to me but i wasnt near a table then. I will be contacting you for sure! hope to speak with u soon, and i hope u feel better.

cheers.
 
Looking forward to it..........

Pryme said:
gene u described exactly the problem i found withing my game, being left eye dom and right handed. Ive been taking lessons with a local pro erik horliefson he just won the canadian 10 ball div, really great coach and player, he noticed i would get down on the ball way of centre of the shot line, i was never able to see that on my own.

secondly just playing a lot over the last 3 months since i started ive noticed this problem with me. just last night during practice it was all going well i was doing half table pattern play with three and four balls, then i went on to do dr daves drill, from the BU exam, where u place the ob ball in the middle of the table, in front of the side pocket and use a stun shot to hit the targets up table towards the short rail, i was cutting to the right, and honestly i had such a hard time pocketing that ball i was always hitting to thick i was like few inches to the left always hitting the point or rail, really frustrating, meanwhile im pocketing other harder shots on a 10 footer with ease.

gene i think ur doing an awsome job, i did contact u for some phone lessons and u did get back to me but i wasnt near a table then. I will be contacting you for sure! hope to speak with u soon, and i hope u feel better.

cheers.
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The fun part of this game is to try and figure it out.

But the most amazing thing about this game is you can learn so many things that others have already figured out and play so much better.

More fun and faster.............

The blind man once said; I can't see what I'm missing...;).

Same with a pool shot.

If you can't see why your missing you don't know what you are missing that would help you see it so you can figure it out:confused:.

The window is open right now. Just trying to heal up for awhile.

My mouth and the phone work just fine:cool:
 
I got a mini lesson from Gene the first year out in Tunica and what he said and showed me really made sense any one that is doubting him should give him a call you will be surprised with the out come. IDK if you remember me Gene but it was real late and you had just finished a lesson,my dad, a buddy, and me were just relaxing and taking it easy. You asked us how we were doing in the tourneys and I was still in it and you offered a mini lesson no charge... thanks for the lesson, Trey
 
Gene, I have been playing pool for about 5 years now and have taken lot more interest in it for the last 2 years. I do not use any aiming system. I usually take aim, line up and shoot. My learning tools are usually websites and you tube videos. I am planning on attending Cue U school for training next month.

I would like to take up on your offer of talking to you over the phone and helping me identify the dominant eye. But I do not want to waste your time if you feel that i need to better understand aiming and practice it before talking to you.

Please let me know.
 
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Just give me a call..........

vvsels said:
Gene, I have been playing pool for about 5 years now and have taken lot more interest in it for the last 2 years. I do not use any aiming system. I usually take aim, line up and shoot. My learning tools are usually websites and you tube videos. I am planning on attending Cue U school for training next month.

I would like to take up on your offer of talking to you over the phone and helping me identify the dominant eye. But I do not want to waste your time if you feel that i need to better understand aiming and practice it before talking to you.

Please let me know.
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Just give me a call and I will help you to understand how this all works.

Be by a pool table...........715-563-8712 Talk to you soon...........
 
I've been struggling with this for a while and finally figured out how to resolve this with some help from a local instructor. Wish I had read this a year or two ago as it would have gotten me on the right path a lot quicker. Thanks for sharing.
 
At first I thought you were one of my phone lessons last night..

smenzel said:
I've been struggling with this for a while and finally figured out how to resolve this with some help from a local instructor. Wish I had read this a year or two ago as it would have gotten me on the right path a lot quicker. Thanks for sharing.
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But you were not.

Many of the players need to be pointed in the right direction. We are pretty good at figuring things out because that is how we learned most of our things with pool.

You should call me for the free phone lesson. I have all the answers on this subject and it will speed up your learning how this works quite a bit.

It took me a total of about 15 years to get the complete picture. I can share it with you in about 30 minutes.

Much easier.

Just be by a table when you call.

Looking forward to your call.

Then you will know The rest of the story..................715-563-8712
 
Gene, Thanks for taking the time and talking to me last week. I am doing much better with my aiming now.
 
Earl has Ocular vision...........

cueman said:
Take a look at the picture of Earl shooting the Million dollar shot with severe right eye dominance.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=329666&highlight=million+dollar+picture
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He uses only the right eye all the time. When he cuts to the right it's the right eye. When he cuts to the left it is the right eye also.

The players that are like this can naturally aim better than most players right away.

John Mora is like this also. Only he is left eye dominant.

About 5% of all players are like this.

The rest are just mear mortals and use both eyes needing to keep the dominant eye in the most dominant position on every shot.

Players like Earl aim like they are looking through a telescope.

it's almost like cheating. These players do have an advantage.
 
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