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Do you hang out in the hardware store complaining about all the tool talk?
Fargo question- could be a dumb one…
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Do you hang out in the hardware store complaining about all the tool talk?
I think "hot"/"cold" tendencies could be thrown in. (dog factor) Bettors might pay attention.
The level of denial the degen video poker players have is profound. Never catch me playing those things-everI think they lose just enough to keep the player interested.
No, I don’t. But data and pool are 2 separate things. Maybe baseball & stats go together better.
There’s lots more interesting facets to pool than trying to quantify how someone plays.
The Gamblerate system is my favorite rating system. The bottom of the scale would be Wouldn't bet water is wet. They upper end would be $10,000/game or Whale. My current Gamblerate is $50/hr.
Bingo! On that we agree.
The irony is the more true it is, the more interested I am in trying to quantify how someone plays.
I was asking why, not complaining. Big difference. What is the real reason they won't open the tournaments up if they are fair?Well you should start a petition where you play, or better yet start your own Tournment just like you vision.
All you need do is find venue to do things the way you would think would go over big.
All you need put into venture is your time, money, and energy.
Show everyone how it’s done successfully.
You have been crying for ever about how system bars you.
Think of it as their business, they the owner pay bills not you.
They can do as they wish. This thing that you not happy with is how it is in Arizona.
Maybe now with Fargo the USA is like Arizona.
Maybe you out need realize your penalized for being better then average.
That is your fault for being over achiever.
You don't get it, and that's OK. Forget about me for a second. The question pertains to everyone that is barred. Why are they barred? I know why they should be barred if they have an advantage, but what's the reason for barring them if it's properly handicapped? There isn't one. And I am not upset that they're barring me from tournaments, I don't have the time to play most tournaments anyways. The whole capping AND handicapping thing it's what's silly.
Can your inevitable response NOT be about me specifically?
Listen buddy gambling is taboo now. People would rather run their mouths and risk nothing. Then wonder why nothing good ever happens.
I've seen alot of champions come through. When the tournament director or room owner bans better players it's also a popularity contest.
Basically because all people do is bitch to get weight. Then the tournament director or room owner had to decide if they want to make 1 person mad or 40.
We had Dave Grau playing in Syracuse at his best a good 15 years back. They let him play in the 20 dollar weekly handicapped tournament and he was beating B players with the 5 out and a game on the wire. Pretty sure they took the break too, because he broke and ran 30% easy. He beat Johnny Archer at Turning Stone then...pretty soundly. When a player is so much stronger than the room, there isn't a fair game.
Think it is like a sign in business that states, WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE.
Business owners right, be it right or wrong.
Maybe you should go to specific event baring you, ask person in charge why can I participate?
Might not like reply, but you will get good info on specific venue.
Someone playing in our room today mentioned he was 623 Fargo, getting close to being barred from some tour in Arizona. Apparently it is 625 and under.
So you agree that it makes no sense.
No I did not agree it makes sense. Bar or Pool Room does tournament for money flow, not good will gesture.
So I suggest if you want to know reason for being barred, go as venue owner, owner.
Not people who have no financial interest.
Remember year ago small bar I use to play in there Tuesday tournament host stop on multi event pool tour.
Week later I asks how did the tour event do for you. Said never again, lost money, it was negative experience.
Negatives was bar had to add $500.00, regulars had no seat so they left, player did not buy many drinks.
So it was negative experience as the tour only the best, or Pro Players.
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I do the same for all the reasons you stated
I'll try one more time. I understand that it is up to the owner of the room or the TD. My question is "what is the reason for barring players if it's a fair contest"? Personal preference is not a reason. They don't make as much money is not a reason. If they don't make as much money, then do it. But WHY don't they make as much money since presumably they'd have more players enter the room. Are the lower rated players afraid to play even matches? Do they not think the matches are truly even?
Keep in mind, I don't expect you to have an answer. I've come to accept that from you by now. The question is for anyone else who may have an idea.
Why you keep asking here. Ask at Bars n Rooms that bar you.
Maybe the lower level player don’t want to play in open tournaments, because they have zero chance of winning.
I said maybe because I guessing. You courteous ask em.
Gotta have a challenge. Watched Ronnie doing the fastest century.
Some players (perhaps myself) have an affection for the feeling of being cornered. One shot for the money. So perhaps we get to situations in games with lower rates players.
Ronnie seemed to add the challenge to force focus. Hence they are rated a little low.
Some players (perhaps myself
) have an affection for the feeling of being cornered. One shot for the money. So perhaps we get to situations in games with lower rates players. Ronnie seemed to add the challenge to force focus. Hence they are rated a little low.
Or perhaps I am just making excuses to massage my Old C S ego.Gotta have a challenge. Watched Ronnie doing the fastest century.
Some players (perhaps myself
Ronnie seemed to add the challenge to force focus. Hence they are rated a little low.
I'm asking for people's opinions on the reason. I've been trying my best to make that very clear to you. You obviously don't have an opinion of your own on the matter. You just keep telling me to ask someone else. What do YOU think is the reason???
You said above "because they have zero chance of winning". That is not true given that the players around here believe in Fargo, and the Fargo rating can be used to handicap matches. Maybe they don't truly believe it works.
I heard an unconfirmed story, of a pro that was/is banned from certain events using the Fargorate. His crime (as I understand) was suggesting that he didn't try in small events. Something I could see a players ego saying. What if he is just making excuses.