Fargo Question.

HueblerHustler7

HueblerHustler7

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I was wondering if anyone else feels penalized to making more than one ball off the break?

Im not upset with the fact that they don't count as points, But the fact that they are spotted causing sometimes a difficult to impossible break out is annoying. Getting penalized for a good break? I don't get it, why not just leave the balls pocketed and go from there to start your point taking?

Anyone have similar experiences with Fargo? or play a moded version?

BTW, today was my first time playing so maybe I will get use to it we will see.
 
I spot the balls on the break but I randomly place the pocketed balls. From what I get from the rules is it does not state that the balls have to be spotted on the foot string frozen behind each other.
 
It's hard enough to figure out which cluster you want to break up, then having to worry about frozen spotted balls behind the foot string is just plain crazy and I'm not near that playing level of playing crazy.
 
Fargo keeps me focused thru out both the sets I play every other day in the full month I been using Fargo I jumped about 30 balls Becuse it's forcing me to play smarter and be more precise.
 
Thank you, ok I'm going to start playing that way because when I was playing the other way it was good practice for break out methods but geese it was starting to get annoying hah.
 
JoseV said:
I spot the balls on the break but I randomly place the pocketed balls. From what I get from the rules is it does not state that the balls have to be spotted on the foot string frozen behind each other.
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seeing as how i only use this game for practice, this is how i do it. I'm not trying to frustrate myself, just move the cue ball around the table and set myself up for as long of a run in rotation as possible.
 
Give your self a few weeks and save your scores. I been saving mine and it shows the increase of balls made each session.

But stay positive there were times I missed wide open tables without clusters and still missed on first shot with BIH.

In fact I had a few cant punch my way out of wet paper bag rack today.

Remember stay positive about it
 
JoseV said:
Give your self a few weeks and save your scores. I been saving mine and it shows the increase of balls made each session.

But stay positive there were times I missed wide open tables without clusters and still missed on first shot with BIH.

In fact I had a few cant punch my way out of wet paper bag rack today.

Remember stay positive about it
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Yea I've pictured insanely easy run outs taken them for granted and only walked away with 3 points. I'll try and stay positive thanks for the support and help. On the bright side I've already noticed a improvement in run out picturing and ball/speed control when I played in my league matches yesterday.
 
HueblerHustler7 said:
I was wondering if anyone else feels penalized to making more than one ball off the break?

Im not upset with the fact that they don't count as points, But the fact that they are spotted causing sometimes a difficult to impossible break out is annoying. Getting penalized for a good break? I don't get it, why not just leave the balls pocketed and go from there to start your point taking?

Anyone have similar experiences with Fargo? or play a moded version?

BTW, today was my first time playing so maybe I will get use to it we will see.
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I don't see the object as to pocketing balls on the break. I just hit it medium speed to get a nice spread.
 
I just started playing this 2 days ago, and yes, I immediately felt as though a good break was a penalty. Yet, if you are going to compare yourself to his rating(Pro, A, B, C,D) chart I guess you should spot the pocketed balls. My next thought was if there is any correlation between Fargo scores to APA level, although this may be better addressed in another thread. If you are just going to practice do it any way you would like and just be consistent. Good luck and have fun. Steve
 
Schwinn said:
I don't see the object as to pocketing balls on the break. I just hit it medium speed to get a nice spread.
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I would say yes and no but it depends on a fast table a med break might be good but you still have a chance of getting a pretty ugly cluster. On a slow table a stronger break might be better so the balls can spread better but you still have a chance for a pretty ugly cluster.

Now I probably did not make sense I never do most of the time. For my game I'm a huge on power break I've been told many times I am a run out player, Fargo is a run out style game so a devastating smash em and chase the cue ball down the aisle is ideal for me.

Anyways back to Fargo I break crazy to try to avoid clusters.
 
Steve Dickey said:
I just started playing this 2 days ago, and yes, I immediately felt as though a good break was a penalty. Yet, if you are going to compare yourself to his rating(Pro, A, B, C,D) chart I guess you should spot the pocketed balls. My next thought was if there is any correlation between Fargo scores to APA level, although this may be better addressed in another thread. If you are just going to practice do it any way you would like and just be consistent. Good luck and have fun. Steve
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Fargo scores are + - 3 three balls if that to APA SKILL LEVELS. A 40 to 60 ball run in Fargo should cover all types the skill lvl 4 players from a weak 4 to solid 4 strong 4. 60 to a 100 balls should cover all types of skill lvl 5 players. If your getting a hundred balls in Fargo you should be a strong 5 stepping up to a skill lvl 6. 100 balls in Fargo is a low B player
But a little to strong to be in a C player class.

I think poster I miss a lot was the one who brought this to light. In a diffrent post and I feel his findings are dead on based on my own findings. Or he might of said it about 9ball or tenball rating but none the less what ever he stated about he is correct I will try to find that thread and post. And I don't think there is a need to start a new thread since its still on this. Fargo topic.

Feel free to correct me
 
Jose,
Thanks for the info. Pretty well fits with my situation. I have been playing two years now and recently became a 6 (8 ball). Played 10 racks of Fargo for the first time a couple days ago and scored 90 points, with individual games ranging from 1(yes 1) to 17. I hope to give it a few more attempts on the weekend to bump things up a bit. Steve
 
JoseV said:
Fargo scores are + - 3 three balls if that to APA SKILL LEVELS. A 40 to 60 ball run in Fargo should cover all types the skill lvl 4 players from a weak 4 to solid 4 strong 4. 60 to a 100 balls should cover all types of skill lvl 5 players. If your getting a hundred balls in Fargo you should be a strong 5 stepping up to a skill lvl 6. 100 balls in Fargo is a low B player
But a little to strong to be in a C player class.

I think poster I miss a lot was the one who brought this to light. In a diffrent post and I feel his findings are dead on based on my own findings. Or he might of said it about 9ball or tenball rating but none the less what ever he stated about he is correct I will try to find that thread and post. And I don't think there is a need to start a new thread since its still on this. Fargo topic.

Feel free to correct me
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You would be closer to a 100 if you made 2 to 3 more balls in those lower scoring racks. I just want to kick my self when I look at my score and say really ? I was 2 balls away from my daily goal which is trying to break 110.

Or the days I get 0 more than once in the same set I give my self a good giggle when I do that tho even tho I don't even break 50 sometimes.
 
Yes, some of those lower scoring racks are very irritating. More often than not,I could easily scored several more balls but was trying to fix problem(s) early that would prevent me from the possibility of running out. Given my current average I would probably have a better chance of raising it if I ignored a couple/few problem balls and just shot in the ducks.
 
i have been playing fargo with a high score of 177 (that includes a 4:angry:). I was playing it that if i scratched on the break, i had to spot all balls and cue ball behind the string. otherwise, any ball that went on the break stayed down but i had to play the cue ball as it lies.

i feel that makes more sense. it doesn't penalize you for having a good break and not having BIH makes evens it out or makes it slightly harder. you can't just tackle a cluster, you have to work towards it.

i will continue playing it that way. the other way makes no sense to spot balls and take BIH. hell, the one time i made 6 balls on the break and was able to run out the balls in order. i felt pretty good about that. that would suck to spot up 6 balls.

any game that penalizes a strong break is fundamentally corrupt.:eek:

i do love fargo though. it puts tournament pressure on me to do well when practicing. best practice game by far. keeps my interest better than the ghost.
 
hlymnstr14 said:
i have been playing fargo with a high score of 177 (that includes a 4:angry:). I was playing it that if i scratched on the break, i had to spot all balls and cue ball behind the string. otherwise, any ball that went on the break stayed down but i had to play the cue ball as it lies.

i feel that makes more sense. it doesn't penalize you for having a good break and not having BIH makes evens it out or makes it slightly harder. you can't just tackle a cluster, you have to work towards it.

i will continue playing it that way. the other way makes no sense to spot balls and take BIH. hell, the one time i made 6 balls on the break and was able to run out the balls in order. i felt pretty good about that. that would suck to spot up 6 balls.

any game that penalizes a strong break is fundamentally corrupt.:eek:

i do love fargo though. it puts tournament pressure on me to do well when practicing. best practice game by far. keeps my interest better than the ghost.
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Now this sounds like a great idea, because I still want to challenge myself but not feel like I'm being penalized. Thanks for the feed back/advice.
 
If I have no clusters and feeling froggy ill try to run out where the CB sits. I don't look at spotting balls made on the break as a penalty since I just toss them randomly on the table.

I kinda feel like I cheated my self when I run the whole rack if I leave the balls down. It boosts my confidence knowing I ran the whole rack with all 15 balls on the table.

I give my self a big hell ya when I make seven random and eight rotation when all the balls are spotted. But I'm going to just play the CB where it lies and see what happens.
 
Great game

I played Fargo tonight before match for the first time...gotta admit, it's a great game!
Really kept me focused. Only problem is I play on barbox, and paying 1.00 to spot balls is counter intuitive-so I played BIH in the kitchen after break instead of BIH anywhere, and I left the balls down. This was actually a handicap for me on account that I'm working on my break right now and wasn't pocketing many balls on the break if any.

Broke one time and launched the cueball off table, left the rack in a miserable cluster, and only scored 2 points, starting to try and break out the clusters. Really could have used BIH down table for that rack, lol.

Still finished with a 136...and I felt like I played as bad as I could play-
 
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