federer, tiger, or sullivan against reyes what is the difference??

tfdr

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If there is only one game played in pocket billards just like snooker, golf or tennis..i:e one pocket generally considered the true test of all-around pool skill..

do you think a Federer, Tiger, or Davies, or Sullivan's tournament record willl equal that of Efren...

we would have seen the most dominant athlete in any sport of all time...

poor efren....
 
tfdr said:
If there is only one game played in pocket billards just like snooker, golf or tennis..i:e one pocket generally considered the true test of all-around pool skill..

do you think a Federer, Tiger, or Davies, or Sullivan's tournament record willl equal that of Efren...

we would have seen the most dominant athlete in any sport of all time...

poor efren....

I'm trying hard to make sense of this post.

Actually, in thirty eight years around pool, this is the first time I've ever heard anyone suggest that one pocket is generally considered the true test of all-around pool skill. Perhaps you should try playing a little 14.1, the game used to decide the world championship even during one-pocket's greatest heyday for the simple reason that pros and pro organizations saw eye-to-eye on the point that 14.1 provided the truest test of a player's skills.

Still, if I buy into your fiction, then the question seems to be "if one-pocket were the only game contested, would Efren be as dominant as Feder, Woods, Davies (which could mean any of female golfer Laura Davies, legendary snooker champion Joe Davis, or legendary snooker champion Steve Davis), or Sullivan (I'm guessing this probably refers to Ronnie O'Sullivan, not Greg Sullivan).?"

I suspect the answer is that Efren would be more dominant than all but Federer, who wins more than half the major championships in his sport playing against huge fields. None of the others are as dominating as Federer.
 
I'm not sure I'd agree with sjm, if only because it seems like there were other greats that dominated their own sports.

Walter Lindrum comes to mind, first and foremost. After having read a few short bios on his, the following factiod comes to mind:

"The Naughton's Sports Council (NSC) came to the ultimate conclusion, in their innaugral meeting, that Walter Lindrum was the uncontested World Sports Champion. Slightly edging out Kelly Slater, Michael Jordan, Lance Armstrong and Tiger Woods amongst others."

Lance Armstrong among that elite crew seems the most singly dominant. 7 TDFs in a row is just.... unbelievable.

And what of Cuelemans? His string of championships is unfathomable. I'm surprised he didn't get BORED of winning so easily, for such a stretch of time.

I'm not taking away from Efren. I'm in awe of his abilities, technique, imagination, character, all-around competence, humbleness... the list goes on. But there are also certainly other legends that deserve the same (more?) recognition.
 
well this is just a hypothetical scenario..
what if just like snooker only the game of one pocket is played?
not taking away from 14.1...where one can at one time can run a 200 and may not be able to duplicate again...
right now there is juxt probably one percent of pocket billard tournament of one pocket..and efren has shown that he is undisputed king in that category..

what if at least 80 percent is played one pocket...

can you imagine what it would mean for efren??

well it's not like snooker..and nobody has dominated it just like efern would have been in one pocket pool..

poor efren
 
Nobody in the current snooker era has domimated it. Perhaps O'Sullivan had the best chance in the past 8 years, but he's battling a few demons... I guess he's the snooker's Strickland!

Really though, Efren has a cult following. So many people consider him one of the best cuists of all time. I recall watching O'Sullivan at the IPT 8-Ball World Championship, heaping praises on Efren.

No poor Efren. He's in the BCA Hall of Fame. He's a living legend. Instead of "poor Efren," how about, "LONG LIVE EFREN!"
 
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