Felt cleaning

I use a small vacuum with a brush (non-rotating) attachment. Sucks up everything. It seems like if you're using a cloth, at some point you're just pushing the dirt around.

I do the same, I have a dedicated vacuum just for my table. It does not have enough suction with the brush attachment to lift the cloth so I do not worry about the seams. I then wipe the table down with Quick Clean and a micro fiber towel. I do this about once a week, that's about 12 hours playing time. I also keep both of my ball sets very clean, in fact I just received my Diamond ball polisher.:smile:
 

I know it sounds funny, but if you try it on old cloth where you can feel the rail too dirty upon touch, results are very impressive. It does work, you just need to be a bit careful, just wipe the rail nose with the sandpaper, apllying light pressure.
 
Glen Hancock, reputed nbr. 1 pool table mechanic in the country told me to use a shop vac, and vac the table after use, been a couple of years now, and table is clean and like new, use a brush type attachment. WORKS great for me.
 
Glen Hancock, reputed nbr. 1 pool table mechanic in the country told me to use a shop vac, and vac the table after use, been a couple of years now, and table is clean and like new, use a brush type attachment. WORKS great for me.

I always used a hard wood floor head with replaceable brushes.
 
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Maybe innocent in Europe, but it is known to be quite toxic in the U.S.
You beat me to it!!!
Sorry, I meant in terms of use with clothes, it is used in cleaning wearing clothes so it's good for table cloth too, especially when applied with a wet towel.
It' still toxic in case of misuse (something really rare to expect here), anyway it's a very cheap liquid that can be used effectively as an alternative to other ones which cost much more.
It IS TOXIC PERIOD! Do not use this!
Linked definitively to CHEMICAL LEUKEMIA.
5 parts per million requires a respirator.
50ppm requires supplied air for us to work with it. Plus special gloves etc..
I liked your detailed post but stay away from the benzene please.
 
You beat me to it!!!

It IS TOXIC PERIOD! Do not use this!
Linked definitively to CHEMICAL LEUKEMIA.
5 parts per million requires a respirator.
50ppm requires supplied air for us to work with it. Plus special gloves etc..
I liked your detailed post but stay away from the benzene please.

We' re talking about a few drops on a damp cloth, nothing more, it's nothing compared to what painters come in contact with.
These chemicals can cause damage only upon prolonged exposure and "high" amounts.
I've been using it for over 20 years, possibly the total amount I have used in all that period is just a few ml.
Well, I'm still here, perhaps being a Microbiologist helps.. :)
Anyway, thanks for replying, you are 100% right it should be used with caution.
I just mentioned it as a cheap alternative, it practically lasts forever and gives good results.
I learned this from a former world champion, who is also still alive and well.. :)
Best,
Petros
 
For those who don't know....."A couple of drops" should've been specified.
I'd still use another product.
Also, saying "I'm still here or he's still here" is about the worst quote when trying to make your point. Many people aren't as lucky when exposed to different things. Even in small doses. I know.
Anyway, shoot straight on that clean table!
 
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Masters makes Sky Blue chalk for that cloth,I have the same cloth and have had some problems keeping it clean.Using this chalk really helped with dark spots. Simonis says to clean the cloth with Woolite and distilled water.About 1/4 Woolite and warm water with a clean damp cloth,wipe it down then dry with another clean cloth.Those two things have helped keep my cloth clean.
 
For those who don't know....."A couple of drops" should've been specified.
I'd still use another product.
Also, saying "I'm still here or he's still here" is about the worst quote when trying to make your point. Many people aren't as lucky when exposed to different things. Even in small doses. I know.
Anyway, shoot straight on that clean table!

That is why in the initial reply I stated "innocent". Everything is quite relative, it is well known that most chemical substances are toxic and highly toxic/lethal if overused, doesn't mean that we have to remind it in every single case when discussing such things in mainly adult forums.
You may clean for eg your hands using alcohol, do you need to be reminded all the time of the danger about drinking it or smelling it for a prolonged period by accident?...

You' re right it's good to remember these things, and try to be as specific as possible at all times, but in such cases where rarely something dangerous happens there's really no need to talk about it any further, getting away from the subject here which is an effective much cheaper alternative to other chemicals (officially used and dangerous as well if overused).
I' ve never heard of any problem in this case that's why I mentioned that people using it never had any (experience based remark-proof), it doesn't mean that theoretically something can't happen, but still theoretically.
 
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Masters makes Sky Blue chalk for that cloth,I have the same cloth and have had some problems keeping it clean.Using this chalk really helped with dark spots. Simonis says to clean the cloth with Woolite and distilled water.About 1/4 Woolite and warm water with a clean damp cloth,wipe it down then dry with another clean cloth.Those two things have helped keep my cloth clean.

Anyone else have a view on sky blue versus regular Master's blue? I've just recently switched from Simonis Green to Tournament Blue - wondering if I should change my chalk. I have notice the chalk residue more, but figured it was just because the cloth was cleaner.

Gideon
 
That is why in the initial reply I stated "innocent". Everything is quite relative, it is well known that most chemical substances are toxic and highly toxic/lethal if overused, doesn't mean that we have to remind it in every single case when discussing such things in mainly adult forums.
You may clean for eg your hands using alcohol, do you need to be reminded all the time of the danger about drinking it or smelling it for a prolonged period by accident?...

You' re right it's good to remember these things, and try to be as specific as possible at all times, but in such cases where rarely something dangerous happens there's really no need to talk about it any further, getting away from the subject here which is an effective much cheaper alternative to other chemicals (officially used and dangerous as well if overused).
I' ve never heard of any problem in this case that's why I mentioned that people using it never had any (experience based remark-proof), it doesn't mean that theoretically something can't happen, but still theoretically.
Still defending benzene. CLASSIC!
Go start a "Benzene is good for you" thread in NPR. Enough.
 
Bees wax on joints

I'm pretty sure that when I had my 9 ft. Brunswick installed about 10 years ago, they used bees wax on the 2 joints. I had the felt changed to Simonis 860 a few years ago and I don't remember any little pieces under the felt at the joints. I use a wet vac, but now after reading the post about lifting the material at the joint, I'll definitely be using a little less pressure by the joints.

Anybody had a definite problem with bees wax being used at the joints ?
 
Still defending benzene. CLASSIC!
Go start a "Benzene is good for you" thread in NPR. Enough.

Please remember I'm not in any kind of benzene business, which in this case would "promote" the "sale" of a 0.5$ bottle that could last for years.. :)
I just placed some facts about using a much cheaper and effective alternative to other chemicals, not forcing (how could I?..) anybody to take my advice.
Thanks for your time, exchanging views and arguments always helps people decide what to do, and I believe those interested in cleaning cloth advice will consider any info provided.
I don't need to start any thread, if you have any official scientific data about people having health problems (any at all) after using benzene in cleaning table cloth, please feel free to do so......
 
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I'm pretty sure that when I had my 9 ft. Brunswick installed about 10 years ago, they used bees wax on the 2 joints. I had the felt changed to Simonis 860 a few years ago and I don't remember any little pieces under the felt at the joints. I use a wet vac, but now after reading the post about lifting the material at the joint, I'll definitely be using a little less pressure by the joints.

Anybody had a definite problem with bees wax being used at the joints ?

Bees wax is a very traditional method of joining the slates.

A few months ago, during a heat wave, the wax in the seams on my table melted enough to raise at the joints. I called the mechanic who installed the table and he came out and pulled the cloth and scraped the excess. I was back in business 45 minutes later.

It has gotten even hotter since then and I have had no further issues.
 
I don't need to start any thread, if you have any official scientific data about people having health problems (any at all) after using benzene in cleaning table cloth, please feel free to do so......
Probably no such study. (Ludicrous to suggest btw) And too small of a group to bother with.

Lots of guys USED TO clean tools and their hands with it too.
Didn't work out well for them.
 
Probably no such study. (Ludicrous to suggest btw) And too small of a group to bother with.

Lots of guys USED TO clean tools and their hands with it too.
Didn't work out well for them.

Exactly as I thought...
No data to support anything
No distinction between use and overuse
No distinction between use in table cloth cleaning and other activities
No real arguments
Just some arrogance and rude remarks with no reason...
Well, anything else besides all that "useful" replies?...
Maybe some other time.....
 
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Exactly as I thought...
No data to support anything
No distinction between use and overuse
No distinction between use in table cloth cleaning and other activities
No real arguments
Just some arrogance and rude remarks with no reason...
Well, anything else besides all that "useful" replies?...
Maybe some other time.....


You can start here:

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/npgd0049.html

Of course, the way the CDC is effing up the ebola outbreak, I can't say I trust anything they say anymore.
 
You can start here:

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/npgd0049.html

Of course, the way the CDC is effing up the ebola outbreak, I can't say I trust anything they say anymore.

Please read carefully the posts above, that should clear any possible misunderstandings, no need to repeat anything without contributing to the thread.
Almost all chemicals used in daily home practice are potentially harmful, potentially...
If by accident you ingest for eg a lot of alocohol that may be used to disinfect your hands it is harmful, chances something like this happens are really minor.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't use it...
Nobody suggested that benzene should be used without minimum precautions (no need to explain that in a mainly adult forum), if you want you may use it as described in the posts above and I guarantee you will not face any health issues.
It's a much cheaper effective alternative to other chemicals used in cleaning table cloth (also toxic in case of rare improper use, have no doubt about it), I'm into Pool for more than 25 years, the world champion that showed me for 35 years, both of us well in our health, along with a lot of other players using it properly for a lot of years.
Petros Andrikopoulos, MD
Specialized in Biopathology
 
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