Ferrule Questions

Jeff

Jeff

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I have a couple of Micarta ferrules that I will be putting on in the near future. Not by myself, I will be sending them off to have it done.

I have been reading some different viewpoints about ferrules and thought I would get some opinions here.

Pros and cons of capped/uncapped

Pros and cons of threaded/unthreaded

Pros and cons of 1 inch/3/4 inch length
 
Jeff said:
I have a couple of Micarta ferrules that I will be putting on in the near future. Not by myself, I will be sending them off to have it done.

I have been reading some different viewpoints about ferrules and thought I would get some opinions here.

Pros and cons of capped/uncapped

Pros and cons of threaded/unthreaded

Pros and cons of 1 inch/3/4 inch length
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Capped is much stronger.
Threaded gives almost zero problems.
3/4" is probably slightly weaker.
 
What got me questioning the different aspects is this from the Dieckman site

"The larger the diameter of the wood tenon the stiffer the hit. The shorter the tenon, the stiffer the hit. Threaded tenons are a production process and add nothing, if not detract, from the playability of a cue, unless all you want to do is PURE DRAW with it. A through tenon is always favorable to a capped one, at least when I put that shoe on my foot."

http://www.cuemaker.com/dieckmanwrittenwordpqb.htm
 
Jeff said:
What got me questioning the different aspects is this from the Dieckman site

"The larger the diameter of the wood tenon the stiffer the hit. The shorter the tenon, the stiffer the hit. Threaded tenons are a production process and add nothing, if not detract, from the playability of a cue, unless all you want to do is PURE DRAW with it. A through tenon is always favorable to a capped one, at least when I put that shoe on my foot."

http://www.cuemaker.com/dieckmanwrittenwordpqb.htm
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Interesting thoughts but for me, I have tried many techniques with ferrules, now I only offer threaded on my cues, repairs, it depends on the shaft I am working on and what the mfg. used.
 
Michael Webb said:
Interesting thoughts but for me, I have tried many techniques with ferrules, now I only offer threaded on my cues, repairs, it depends on the shaft I am working on and what the mfg. used.
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tap, tap, tap
 
Jeff said:
What got me questioning the different aspects is this from the Dieckman site

"The larger the diameter of the wood tenon the stiffer the hit. The shorter the tenon, the stiffer the hit. Threaded tenons are a production process and add nothing, if not detract, from the playability of a cue, unless all you want to do is PURE DRAW with it. A through tenon is always favorable to a capped one, at least when I put that shoe on my foot."

http://www.cuemaker.com/dieckmanwrittenwordpqb.htm
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Mr. Dieckman is absolutely correct in my opinion.

Good Cuemaking,
 
Jeff said:
I have a couple of Micarta ferrules that I will be putting on in the near future. Not by myself, I will be sending them off to have it done.

I have been reading some different viewpoints about ferrules and thought I would get some opinions here.

Pros and cons of capped/uncapped

Pros and cons of threaded/unthreaded

Pros and cons of 1 inch/3/4 inch length
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Big -fat - threaded - shorter - through - tenon...........

Draws.....Follows........Stops........

I believe the tip plays a more imortant part to this than just the ferrule alone.
Some of my thoughts on the business end of the cue........
 
all the ferrules that I yse are 1'' capped and threaded. Works best for me with no problems for the customer later.
Chris
 
Pinocchio said:
Well I figured out two people not to buy cues from!!!!!!!!
Pinovcchio
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Well, in that case make it three people you won't ever buy from as my opinion is with Arnot and Dennis. I have never found a sound reason why a ferrule has to be threaded to hold a ferrule on a shaft. I've probably put on at least 2500 ferrules and as far as I know, none have ever come lose. Threading is a shortcut started in factories so that a machine is not tied up while the glue is drying. The act of putting threads on a tenon makes it much thinner in places so that it is not as stiff as a none threaded ferrule.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
Well, in that case make it three people you won't ever buy from as my opinion is with Arnot and Dennis. I have never found a sound reason why a ferrule has to be threaded to hold a ferrule on a shaft. I've probably put on at least 2500 ferrules and as far as I know, none have ever come lose. Threading is a shortcut started in factories so that a machine is not tied up while the glue is drying. The act of putting threads on a tenon makes it much thinner in places so that it is not as stiff as a none threaded ferrule.

Dick
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Count me in that group. The only ferrules I cap is Ivory & I'm reconsidering them. My son made a BREAK Q 18 years ago with a straight through Ivory 1 1/4" ferrule, that he is still breaking with & NO PROBLEMS...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
Count me in that group. The only ferrules I cap is Ivory & I'm reconsidering them. My son made a BREAK Q 18 years ago with a straight through Ivory 1 1/4" ferrule, that he is still breaking with & NO PROBLEMS...JER
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hey jer...do you thread them also? (ivory ferrules)..thanks, joe
 
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