Fibre ferrules for sale $1. each.
Ferrules
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Lbm? What kind? A pic might help.
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The type is fibre. I know you are new to the repairs and building of cues, so just think of the type of ferrule that comes factory on a Huebler cue.
I am not new to repairs, kind of new to building. Just because I might be new to certain areas, does not mean that I am stupid.
I asked you a valid question... Basically if I post tips for sale and say just tips without specifying or posting pictures people will wonder... Just trying to help... :scratchhead:
If you don't know what a fibre ferrule is you are new to repairs. Do you want to buy them? If not why post??????????
Do me a favor dude, don't call me anymore. I don't need your bs about the type of ferrules they are and that you glued them with super glue. I know how to install a ferrule.
Fibre is the old school material used on house cues for many years. I believe the story is the place that made them burned down & they are no longer available...haven't been for several years now. They were pretty much bulletproof but you did need to keep them dry.
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I said seal them with super glue, glue them with epoxy. How that spraybooth comming?
Fibre/fishpaper what ever ya want to call It has been around for many years, and as mentioned has become harder to find, although It can still be found, but most of the ones I've seen recently have a ID that is too large to fit some tenons.
Many makes of cues have used It at one time or another, not just house cues mind ya, but as mentioned house cues like the old Dufferins commonly used them back in the day. It was a relatively low cost material, but another thing with it on house cues that was a plus, was after people had decided to hit with the ferrules after the tips had fallen off, the material did not crack, and split the entire length of the ferrule the same as some materials would. It more less mushrooms like a tip, therefor can be trimmed with a razor similar to a tip, refaced and tipped again. Economically this was a good thing when You consider the cost of a ferrule replacement as opposed to the cost of a new house cue. The biggest downfall of the material was probably It's tendency to swell when exposed to moisture. Often times this would cause the glue bond to break loose, but they could easily be glued back on and trimmed.
In a nut shell It was an economical material that lasted longer then some of the plastics used in house cues these days, and It saved a lot of money in repair costs as a whole.
Many makes of cues have used It at one time or another, not just house cues mind ya, but as mentioned house cues like the old Dufferins commonly used them back in the day. It was a relatively low cost material, but another thing with it on house cues that was a plus, was after people had decided to hit with the ferrules after the tips had fallen off, the material did not crack, and split the entire length of the ferrule the same as some materials would. It more less mushrooms like a tip, therefor can be trimmed with a razor similar to a tip, refaced and tipped again. Economically this was a good thing when You consider the cost of a ferrule replacement as opposed to the cost of a new house cue. The biggest downfall of the material was probably It's tendency to swell when exposed to moisture. Often times this would cause the glue bond to break loose, but they could easily be glued back on and trimmed.
In a nut shell It was an economical material that lasted longer then some of the plastics used in house cues these days, and It saved a lot of money in repair costs as a whole.
I agree with everything Greg said. And I'll add that they actually played quite nice as well...many cuemakers used them for a long time as their standard ferrule. A nice lively hit without that horrid glass sound so often common with linen base ferrules. Just don't get them wet or they'd swell up double in size since they were basically rolled up paper. The only other downside is that they didn't glue well with CA's. I'd often see them with huge black lines where the ferrule meets the shaft...this was a sign that the ferrule was moving and not properly glued. Chalk dust would enter the gap and create the black line visual. You needed to use epoxy or wood glue for a premium bond. Also tips didn't stick well either with CA. You could look around any poolroom that had Duffs on the walls...and you'd see more than half the tips looked like the edges were not glued down...they weren't. A slight push with finger pressure and the tips would pop right off and you could see that they were only bonded to the wood tenon. In fact often the fibre on the ferrule face had turned blue from chalk dust. Epoxy was the cure for that as well...also todays Gorilla glue bonds the material wonderfully. With the proper choice of adhesives, these ferrules were indestructable with top shelf performance....and did I mention they were cheap...least expensive material offered. They were also available in black...I think I still have a few for a couple local oldtimers that swear by them with an Elkmaster. Thanks to Mr. Colbert you have now completed "Old school Fibre ferrule class 101".:thumbup:
I want to thank those who posted the explanations of what a fibre ferrule is, as I didn't know. I actually am new to repairs and appreciate any information that people choose to share.
While I don't know much about the aforementioned topic, I can share you something I am quite good at(believe it or not) and that is customer relations.
Just because someone asks a question about your product doesn't make them obtuse, it gives you an opportunity to better explain particulars that may have been overlooked in the beginning.
The idea is to broaden your customer base as much as possible with whatever tools are at hand. Saying you have fibre ferrules is fine, IF you want to sell ONLY to someone who knows about them. I dare say Micarta could be put in the same category, as someone new probably doesn't know a heck of alot about it. The ambiguity of the sale INVITES questions though.
If I asked you what length(I think a good question) they are, would that be a bother as well?
Treating Tony the way you did, is a great way of conveying that you aren't great to do business with. That may not be true, but perception is everything.
They are 1" long with a 3/8" through hole the outside diamater is about 13mm. I have 79 of them and shipping for all of them is $6. in the U.S.A. I also have a few oddball ones that I can throw in for another $15.
well put, if your trying to sell something i don't think it pays to be rude.
LOL, Thanks for the schooling Kev, I'll take what ever I can get, because this poor ol boy don't always remember so well. Seriously though, Yeah they didn't play that bad. I use to use them on some of My personal cues. I Use to order them from the Mueller's catalog I believe. At least that's where I think It was. The ones that I use to get had a 1/4 ID, and that allowed me to use them on several tenon sizes. That's the size that I can't find anymore. I still have a couple of the black colored 1/4 ID fibre ferrules, nothing in white though, I burned through all of those a long time ago.