Fights in a pool room

I grew up playing in a bar, as it was the only place around that had 9' tables at the time. So at the time, I seen bar fights about weekly. Knife fights, gun fights, bouncers throwing people over the tables etc... But the most interesting ones are when the girls get a hold of some beer bottles.

I guess a benefit to all of it is it certainly got me used to playing in any environment. People moving around, shouting, bands playing, people flying over the table, pool lights getting hit etc... does not bother my game. I just loved pool to much growing up I guess.
 
I never get into fights but there was a young punk why keyed my car because I always beat him in pool. To get even with the clown I began twirling a wooden rack towards my chest after racking. When the punk racked a game he tried to copy my twirl and slapped himself in the face with the heavy wooden rack. People were falling down laughing.
 
never even a disagreement

In NYC many years ago(50+-)They new without a word from me that they would be gone! Actually not many disagree when winning.
 
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richiebalto said:
The worst incident i ever seen in a pool hall happen with me my cousin and our friend named Ronnie Smuck (smuck was a well knowed tush hog) in Baltimore anyway.

Wow-----Ronnie is a name from long ago---In the early 60's he played at Mort's in Towson----he set up a match between my friend Jon Ellerton and Buddy Dennis in Glen Burnie in the very early 60's- Buddy won $60 in $20 nine ball after about 8 hours of play----did you start at Mort's?
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No rules for big spenders...

Stones said:
Ran a pool room in San Antonio for 8 years. Rough joint.

Had at least 2 fights a week and at least once every couple of weeks, someone would pull a weapon of some kind.

Problem was the owner refused to bar anyone permanently because he saw it as future income walking out the door. If someone started a fight, I'd throw them out. The next day, they'd call the owner whining and crying it wasn't their fault and they'd be back the next night like nothing happened. Didn't take long for the clientele to figure out all they had to do was talk to the owner and they were home free.

We had a joke around the poolroom that the only way someone could be permanently barred was if they stabbed or shot the owner and then it was only a50/50 chance. LOL

My only saving grace was I hired a guy to work the door and security who was a state wrestling champion. The guy was laid back and was great at talking people down out of fight mode. If someone swung on him, he would put them in a pretzel hold on the floor and whisper in their ear until they calmed down.

One thing I learned over the years was the quickest way to empty a bar or poolroom was for a fight to break out.

Seen a few things in my travels as a road player:

Walked into a bar just as a guy was finishing stomping a guy to death over not paying off on a 50 cent 8 ball game. The word was the guy that did the stomping had just gotten out of prison 10 days before on a murder conviction. It took 6 cops to finally hog tie the guy.

Seen a guy shot and killed over a 5 dollar 8 ball game outside a bar.

Knew a guy that got shot 6 times at one time over gambling with the wrong people and 3 months later ran into him gambling in another poolroom. Just got out of the hospital. Still had a cast on his leg at the time. This guy was the most degenerate gambler I ever knew.

Saw a guy throw a cueball so hard it would have made Nolan Ryan proud from about 40 feet and hit a guy right in the mouth. I think they're still rebuilding his head.

Saw a big ol' tush hog that had been giving everyone trouble during a little weekly 8 ball tourny get hit in the chest with a pool cue thrown like a javelin from someone that had just had enough. The cue went through his upper chest near the shoulder. The tush hog's jaw dropped open in shock. He reached up and grasped the cue to hold it in place and then, fell on his azz to the floor. I didn't stick around to see how it turned out.

That enough for now.



Stones< too old to get involved in stuff like this anymore cuz I'm 0 - 11 in bar fights anyway.
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I could list a number of examples from over the years, where owners look the other way at trouble makers because they're big spenders. By trouble-makers, I mean people who truly enjoy arguing and fighting. They will call imaginary fouls or blatantly shark an opponent just to get something going. And the owners still love them.

This is one of the serious problems with pool today...owners who don't give a shit about the game or ethics...just the almighty dollar.
 
We had one at league this past season. We have a known trouble maker who will scream at the top his lungs and make fun of his opponent if he runs out on them, or refuse to talk to the opponent if they run out. Handshaking is only reserved for his good days and only then if he wins.

He started his usual tirade after losing, generally being, "a bad sport", and the opposing team took offense when he started calling them names. Alfie is in a wheelchair, so he threatens people with violence and then gets his son to back up his threats. In this case Alfie went too far with an insult and the hands started to fly. His son tackled another player and they fell into a third teams cues, lined up in a Q-claw. 4 of them were shattered into pieces.

Alfie's son went to the think tank for the evening and he was banned from the bar. Although he was ordered to pay for the cues that were broken I somehow doubt that will ever happen.
 
richiebalto said:
The worst incident i ever seen in a pool hall happen with me my cousin and our friend named Ronnie Smuck (smuck was a well knowed tush hog) in Baltimore anyway.

So us three walk in USA billiards in laurel Maryland (outskirts of balto and dc) this room was open all nite, the place was dead tonite (so were we almost) so after about an hour this young korean guy comes up to Ronnie and ask him if he wanted to go outside and fight (now this is rite up Ronnies alley he loves to fight for money) Ronnie says lets go and turns and heads for the door, but as soon as Ronnie turns the korean guy grabs a pool stick and whacks ronnie across the back, knocking Ronnie down, then this crazy mfer korean dude goes behind the counter and grabs two hands full of knifes, he turns toward Ronnie (at this time Ronnie is coming at him) and throws and sticks a MEAT CLEVER in Ronnies lower leg, now the crazy korean still has a bunch of knifes in his hands, then he says screaming wheres those other two faggots at, meaning me and my cousin, Korean turns and looks at me and i ran full blast out the back door as Ronnie and Eugene (cousin) ran out the front door with that crazy mfer after them.

So Ronnie and Eugene just make it to the truck in time, Ronnie drove a small pick-up truck, so the Korean jumps in the back of the truck pounding at the small window , trying to kill both of them, Eugene made a quick turn and it dumpped that crazy korean out.

They drove to the firehouse around the corner and the paramedics took Ronnie and Eugene and me to the local hospital, i ran out the back door while they went out the front door and i was heading straight for the firehouse to call the police (this was before all the cell phones) and when i got there Eugene and Ronnie was pulling up.

That was the scariest i ever been, i really though if that crazy korean would of got close enough to me he would of tried to kill me!
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What.the.hell.
 
Cue ball as a weapon.

I was only 10 at the time, but saw something very brutal at Russell's Pool Room in Belle Glade, Fl.
The guy running the place was named John and he probably weighed 150 pounds wet. There was a Mexican guy who was very drunk and loud. He had words with John and then tackled him up against one of the pool tables. John reached over and grabbed the cue ball very quick and put the guy in a headlock and proceeded to hit the guy near the temple area 10-12 times in 3-4 seconds. It all happened within 10-15 seconds and needless to say there was blood everywhere. I can't believe it didn't kill the guy. Somehow the guy stayed conscious and staggerred to the door, all the while he kept saying," John, I'm gonna get you John".

Very disturbing for anyone to see, especially a 10 year old.
 
fights

Not that I havent been in a fight or 2. and have done my fair share of bleeding.

Guys I have loaded van after van full of people killed in bars on, over, or around pool tables.
Little advise for all you guys that travel around with dead people. You cannot use the car pool lane, 2 or more people have to be alive. Dead people dont count ............................
I know this info is upsetting but its true dead people dont count as people when it comes to car pooling.
I wonder what dead beat thought that law up..



MMike
 
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Playing at bars is often an encounter with the most unsportman like people. I was at a bar the other night, racked a table and went to get a house cue to break with, when iI returned to the table some guy who was sitting at the bar had broken the rack! I was shocked that he had done something so rude!
Wendyb
 
wendyb said:
Playing at bars is often an encounter with the most unsportman like people. I was at a bar the other night, racked a table and went to get a house cue to break with, when iI returned to the table some guy who was sitting at the bar had broken the rack! I was shocked that he had done something so rude!
Wendyb
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Maybe it was his table, and he assumed that you were challenging him by racking the balls?

Did it start a fight?
 
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