Finding your own way drill?

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Sooo I've read bout all these different systems for pocketing balls when playing pool. I've recently discovered a better position for my eyes. Now I am asking for some advice regarding finding a drill that would enable me to discover a system that works for me and my way of playing pool. I think I am gonna try some kind of shaft aiming system. Any drills out there you would recommend? This is kind of a reboot with the new eye position. Thanks in advance.
 
I am a proponent of the SEE system as it made sense to me without giving me headaches... It has flaws in it as do all of the other systems but Ekkes can be reached here on AZ if you ru into stumbling blocks.... With that being said with the eye reset I'd likely look into SEE... and CTE/Pro1 and read up on Shane's brief ferrule discussion from one of the tar podcasts....

I am sure others will chime in with some other ideas but since you are seeing things in a new light I like the idea of adding a system to it while it is fairly new.......

I played tonight for the first time in months due to illness and alot of the SEE was foggy so I dropped back to a fractional system and pivot system I used years ago..... Having good references to go along with having your eyes right makes the game soooo much more enjoyable than just trying to pick out a contact point... At least for me anyway.....
 
Find your way

I will explain an aiming system (shaft) that I saw in a video of Shane Van Boening teaching. I went to the poolhall the next day and spent 2 1/2 hours working on the details of it.

3 basic shots
1) straight in (or close to) = straight to 15 degrees outside of straight
2) Cut shot = 15 degrees up to 60 degrees (most shots in pool)
3) very thin cut shot = 60 degrees to 90 degrees

Before I explain the 3, you need to know how to find the contact point. For straight in shots it is drawing a line from the center of the pocket through the center of the object ball and where that line comes out the object ball is the contact point. I stress straight in shots because once you add angle of a cut (or apply english) you need to adjust this for contact throw. The adjustment is to over-cut the ball. So instead of using the center of the pocket, start to the short side of the pocket and then find the contact point.

2nd important bit of information. All of this is based on shooting through the center of the cueball.

1) Straight in shots - Find the contact point and simply aim the center of your tip for the contact point.

2) Cut shots - Cutting the ball to the left (15 degrees to 60 degrees) you find the contact point and aim the left side of your cue stick for the contact point. The center of your cue should still be lined up through the center of the cue ball (as in all these). If you are cutting to the right you aim the right side of your stick for the contact point.

3) Very thin cuts - 60 degree's or so - cutting to the left you line up the left side of your cue about 1/8th of an inch outside of the object ball (yes you aim away from the ball slightly). Thin cuts is the only shots that i find this is not concrete because the closer you get to 90 degrees you aim closer to 1/2 an inch away from the ball.

Remember, this is for center ball hits without english and adjuststing your contact point to slightly over cut your cut shots. When applying english you have 2 adjustments. 1 is to ajust the contact point based off of what english/speed to adjust for contact throw. 2 is that you will use the 3 aiming rules above to find the line of the shot (still from the center of the cue ball) and then parallel your cue to the desired english. And this adjustment is all based on a low deflection shaft.

A good drill for testing this is to place 5 balls from the foot rail, spaced 1 ball off the rail for the first ball, then 1 ball space between each ball (going up to near the footspot). Then place the cue ball 1/2 diamond in front of the side pocket (for all shots the cue ball will be placed back to this spot). SHoot the first ball into the corner, should be a very slight cut. Repeat 5 to 10 times. Then shoot the 2nd ball to the corner, should be slightly more of a cut, repeat. Then pregress to the 3rd ball (medium cut), then the 4th ball (thin cut) then the 5th ball (very thin cut). Try to master all 5 with the aiming system with center ball hit. Then go back through and try using varying degrees of english for each shot.
 
I will explain an aiming system (shaft) that I saw in a video of Shane Van Boening teaching. I went to the poolhall the next day and spent 2 1/2 hours working on the details of it.

3 basic shots
1) straight in (or close to) = straight to 15 degrees outside of straight
2) Cut shot = 15 degrees up to 60 degrees (most shots in pool)
3) very thin cut shot = 60 degrees to 90 degrees

Before I explain the 3, you need to know how to find the contact point. For straight in shots it is drawing a line from the center of the pocket through the center of the object ball and where that line comes out the object ball is the contact point. I stress straight in shots because once you add angle of a cut (or apply english) you need to adjust this for contact throw. The adjustment is to over-cut the ball. So instead of using the center of the pocket, start to the short side of the pocket and then find the contact point.

2nd important bit of information. All of this is based on shooting through the center of the cueball.

1) Straight in shots - Find the contact point and simply aim the center of your tip for the contact point.

2) Cut shots - Cutting the ball to the left (15 degrees to 60 degrees) you find the contact point and aim the left side of your cue stick for the contact point. The center of your cue should still be lined up through the center of the cue ball (as in all these). If you are cutting to the right you aim the right side of your stick for the contact point.

3) Very thin cuts - 60 degree's or so - cutting to the left you line up the left side of your cue about 1/8th of an inch outside of the object ball (yes you aim away from the ball slightly). Thin cuts is the only shots that i find this is not concrete because the closer you get to 90 degrees you aim closer to 1/2 an inch away from the ball.

Remember, this is for center ball hits without english and adjuststing your contact point to slightly over cut your cut shots. When applying english you have 2 adjustments. 1 is to ajust the contact point based off of what english/speed to adjust for contact throw. 2 is that you will use the 3 aiming rules above to find the line of the shot (still from the center of the cue ball) and then parallel your cue to the desired english. And this adjustment is all based on a low deflection shaft.

A good drill for testing this is to place 5 balls from the foot rail, spaced 1 ball off the rail for the first ball, then 1 ball space between each ball (going up to near the footspot). Then place the cue ball 1/2 diamond in front of the side pocket (for all shots the cue ball will be placed back to this spot). SHoot the first ball into the corner, should be a very slight cut. Repeat 5 to 10 times. Then shoot the 2nd ball to the corner, should be slightly more of a cut, repeat. Then pregress to the 3rd ball (medium cut), then the 4th ball (thin cut) then the 5th ball (very thin cut). Try to master all 5 with the aiming system with center ball hit. Then go back through and try using varying degrees of english for each shot.

Hey man! Thank you very much. I'll try this tomorrow!
 
Sooo I've read bout all these different systems for pocketing balls when playing pool. I've recently discovered a better position for my eyes. Now I am asking for some advice regarding finding a drill that would enable me to discover a system that works for me and my way of playing pool. I think I am gonna try some kind of shaft aiming system. Any drills out there you would recommend? This is kind of a reboot with the new eye position. Thanks in advance.
Here is a handout about "progressive practice" which I think is exactly what you are asking for. It will even allow you to easily measure improvement on nearly any kind of shot you want to work on. I guess that would be cut shots for your current problem.

http://www.sfbilliards.com/progpract.pdf

Once you understand the principles behind the method, you should be able to easily develop your own aiming drills from the shots you have trouble with in game situations.
 
Bob Jewett, Thank you so much for posting this information. I'm a retired geezer and a hack too. I need all the help I can get.
 
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