Finishing Help

[96supersport]

Question about finishing oily woods. How can I seal them so the oils don't run and stain lighter woods when wiping down just before finishing? The solar energy will also pick up the oils and cause discoloration. Had one I thought was good but now the oils have run under the finish and stained my white butt cap.

 

[HDR10]

Does it have something between the 2 woods? Phenolic, plastic, diff wood ring......

 

[96supersport]

Finish

I have fiber rings everywhere. My problem is when I wipe it down after sanding to prepare for finish the oils from the points will smear onto the maple forearm or stain lighter wooden rings. I'll take a picture of the butt so sometime and show what happened there too.

 

[ratcues]

What kind of finish are you using? When I am spraying on a wood species that is known to bleed, I fog the first coat. Let that cure then lay down heavier coats.

 

[96supersport]

Finish

I'm using Solarez, don't have the ability to spray at this point. Things are getting messed up before I even try to apply finish. Wipe down with solvent to clean surface prior to finish and it just smears everything, maybe I just need to blow it off really well after sanding and go right into sealing with CA.

 

[HDR10]

I'm using Solarez, don't have the ability to spray at this point. Things are getting messed up before I even try to apply finish. Wipe down with solvent to clean surface prior to finish and it just smears everything, maybe I just need to blow it off really well after sanding and go right into sealing with CA.

I clean with denatured alcohol then use sanding sealer then sand with 400 never had an issue

 

[Renegade_56]

I'm using Solarez, don't have the ability to spray at this point. Things are getting messed up before I even try to apply finish. Wipe down with solvent to clean surface prior to finish and it just smears everything, maybe I just need to blow it off really well after sanding and go right into sealing with CA.

What moisture content are you working your woods at, and what solvents are you using to prep before spraying,,,,,, and finally, are you sealing?

 

[96supersport]

Finish

The cocobolo I used for a butt sleeve was a kiln dried piece, that I've have for probably 5 years. Don't know what the exact moisture content was, the cocobolo points were newly purchased and I didn't check their moisture content. I was wiping down with mineral spirits to prep for finish. After making a mess with that I sanded out the staining, and did a dry wipe down and blew it off real good and finished with tack cloth. Thought I had it nailed, but then when I hit it with the Solarez, the finish picked up the color and made a mess again. Sanded that off, sealed with CA and Solarez over the top. Seemed to do the trick, go back a few months later and the buttcap has all orange/brown swirls on it.

 

[96supersport]

This is what I have going on

This is what happened with the butt cap. Don't have a picture of the front but just imagine orange stained maple.

 

[qbilder]

Next time try wiping with a dry rag first, beginning with the white and wiping toward the coco. With points, do not wipe while the cue is spinning. Wipe in a linear fashion and again start in the white and wipe toward the coco. A simple dry wipe like that should be sufficient before sealing.

 

[jkan101]

Solarez

When I put solarez on an oily wood like coco...I wiped it down with acetone first then used the vinyl ester sealer .....then the solarez ...no problems

 

[Dave38]

When I put solarez on an oily wood like coco...I wiped it down with acetone first then used the vinyl ester sealer .....then the solarez ...no problems

And that is the answer...Really... Solarez makes a specific sealer for oily woods. Go to their site and watch ALL of the videos pertaining to oily woods and sealers. Using acetone will remove the surface oils, But using the proper sealer from Solarez and curing it properly will keep the oils from doing what they did on that cue afterwards. Another tip, don't over expose the cue to the UV on the seal coat, do a 14 or so seconds, then remove for a minute, then do about 30 seconds etc., do it slowly and this prevents the sealer getting to hot and not sticking as well and causing lifting. Same with the finish, do the curing in stages.
HTHs,
Dave

 

[96supersport]

Thanks

Thanks for all the advice everyone, I'll put all I've learned to work on the next one I finish and see how it goes. I actually have a quart of the sealer already, should have put it to use.