First attempt putting a pool table together

MSchaffer

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Here is the back story:

Had a new 8' 'furniture' table purchased as a surprise gift for me when I returned from middle Middle East deployment in 2004. It was set up in our dining room complete with a nice set of lights and even had Simonis cloth (what a great wife!)...disclaimer: since it was inside the house, she said she had to pick the cloth color to match <insert random decor item here>. Hence, I have some sort of 'wine' color cloth.

Anway, the rails slowly became worse over time until they were completely unplayable by 2006. As they became worse, I played on them less and less, until I rarely played at all. We decided to move the table into the garage with hopes of one day hiring a mechanic to 'fix it'. There is sat for 5 years in various stages of disrepair until recently.

This past January, my son decided he wanted to start playing pool, so we've been frequently the local pool hall, where he has shown some pretty fair dedication to actually learning the game correctly, and by the end of February, was begging to play everyday, and we'd end up playing for 3-4 hours at a time.

Not wanting to spend that amount of money on rented tables when we have a table at home, I decided to at least give fixing the home table a shot.




So....with virtually no specialized tools, zero experience, and little money, and guided only by threads on 'Talk To A Mechanic', we gave it a whirl.

I leveled the 'carcass' with a 60 year old carpenters level that is most assuredly not calibrated at all and some plastic shims I found laying around in the garage.

I put the center slate on and eyeballed it to 'reasonably centered', then screwed in the slate screws with some more shims underneath, and leveled that by rolling some pool balls on top until they looked like they rolled straight.

I then put the end slates on, and raised each with shims until the seam felt pretty flush. I leveled those length wise by once again rolling a pool ball until it looked straight (I think it was a 3-ball).

I went to Ace Hardware and bought entirely too much plaster of paris, and filled in the seams and slate screw holes.

After cleaning the slate, I sprayed Super 77 over the entire bed, and layed the old cloth on top, lining up the existing rail bolts...only a few wrinkles.

I took the staples out from the underside of each rail, and being careful not to remove the featherstrip, folded the rail cloth back to expose the hardened rails., The rails came off pretty easily , so I sanded them lightly to remove the old glue. I bought a set of K66 profile no-name rubber for $90 from a local billiard depot, and attached those with Super 90 spray glue. I cut the rubber along the same compound profile as the wood rails and then glued on the old facing, then (wanting a bit tighter pockets and a smoother face) attached 1 set of new facings (double-shimmed?).

I carefully folded the cloth back over and stapled the cloth back to the underside with staples that were entirely too long and had to be pounded in with the back-side of a screwdriver until they neatly folded over.

Bolted the rails back on, and voila! My first attempt is in the books.

...btw, I highly recommend hiring a mechanic.
 
Cloth color to match room decor?

Congratulations on the completion of your table work. Some of my best times with my father were around a pool table.ENJOY!!


FOR FUTURE REFERENCE TO ALL POOL PLAYERS---

YOU PICK THE COLOR OF THE CLOTH- TOUR BLUE OR GREEN--

SHE PICKS THE COLOR OF THE TABLE COVER!!!! THAT WAY WHEN YOUR NOT PLAYING POOL THE COVER MATCHES HER ROOM. JMO



GORDON GRAHAM
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Did you say you sprayed super 77 over the entire playing surface of the slate! Where on these fourms did you read to do that??also I got bad news for you about using spray glue to attach the cushions..that's a no-no'...oh' I think you might of over payed for the cushion rubber too....if you searched this site you can get some very helpful things about pool table mechanics and intel of how the pros do it....I'm not throwing stones' just informing you that in the future when recovering the table your in for a can of worms..your gonna have to remove all that spray glue..and ask questions here

The best of luck with your table....
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Rob.M
 
I look at it this way..

I spent ~ $100 to go from useless clutter to a reasonable table....definitely worth the 'investment'. The true purpose was to go save$100/week spent at the local establishment, and save for a better table.

We are both very happy to sit in the garage and play, knowing we can look into a used Diamond/GC in a year or so.

...and think how much better we will be after shooting into 3.75" pockets for a year!
 
Did you say you sprayed super 77 over the entire playing surface of the slate! Where on these fourms did you read to do that??also I got bad news for you about using spray glue to attach the cushions..that's a no-no'...oh' I think you might of over payed for the cushion rubber too....if you searched this site you can get some very helpful things about pool table mechanics and intel of how the pros do it....I'm not throwing stones' just informing you that in the future when recovering the table your in for a can of worms..your gonna have to remove all that spray glue..and ask questions here

The best of luck with your table....
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Rob.M


it's almost like a bad joke ....he read the forums and did exactly what you are not supposed to do;

use an uncalibrated carpenters level
spray glue the bed
spray glue the rails...
plaster of paris on the seams
double shimmed the facings
used a ball to help level the slate


no offense to the op ....if he's happy that's all that counts ........but his methods are not what this forum promotes.
 
it's almost like a bad joke ....he read the forums and did exactly what you are not supposed to do;

use an uncalibrated carpenters level
spray glue the bed
spray glue the rails...
plaster of paris on the seams
double shimmed the facings
used a ball to help level the slate


no offense to the op ....if he's happy that's all that counts ........but his methods are not what this forum promotes.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. Only 8 posts, I'm thinking this is someone messing with us. If not, I guess A for effort, but like it was said here, if you did the work based on what you read from the forums, you should have read more than the hackwork section. ;)
 
I was trying to be positive?

I understand that he didn't do what a pro does, it's his first table. He didn't pay for that work to be done. $$$$$$

I (we) do A or A+ work on tables,with the worlds finest cushions and cloth, but that is in trade for A or A+ money. You get what you pay for.

He got his table done to his liking for NO MONEY, and he's happy about it!!! He took the initiative to put the table together and start using it!!!

I was trying to be positive to the OP and focus on good times spent around a pool table.

He ended his post by saying " do yourself a favor, hire a pro."




Gordon
 
I understand that he didn't do what a pro does, it's his first table. He didn't pay for that work to be done. $$$$$$

I (we) do A or A+ work on tables,with the worlds finest cushions and cloth, but that is in trade for A or A+ money. You get what you pay for.

He got his table done to his liking for NO MONEY, and he's happy about it!!! He took the initiative to put the table together and start using it!!!

I was trying to be positive to the OP and focus on good times spent around a pool table.

He ended his post by saying " do yourself a favor, hire a pro."




Gordon

No, you're right. I guess the way I was looking at it when I responded was thinking about how many DIY'ers do use this forums as a source for information, and I wondered how many of them could misinterpret the information like this. This is a great source if used properly, but something about this thread felt like a mockery of what we do. I could be wrong, and whole-heartedly apologize if I am. It just made me wonder how difficult it has become to sift through all the BS on here to get to the right info.
 
Nope, not a mockery, if anything an off-handed tribute(?)

I got into this after reading what all of you mechanics do, and you made it look easy.

I set off with the greatest of intentions to do the job perfectly, and I really thought I could do the job well without the proper tools, materials, and experience. I was wrong.

It turned out to be a playable table that is level and has consistent rolls and rebounds, but it sure is ugly to look at right now.

I guess I accomplished what I set out to do...get my table working again, but what I really learned is that when I do get a better table, I will always hire a mechanic to work on it. (and I think I can really tell the difference between a hack and a pro now that I've actually been inthe belly of the beast!)


I didn't mean to come off as a goof or being insulting...sorry. I respect what each of you do (always have, but now to a greater degree!)
 
Nope, not a mockery, if anything an off-handed tribute(?)

I got into this after reading what all of you mechanics do, and you made it look easy.

I set off with the greatest of intentions to do the job perfectly, and I really thought I could do the job well without the proper tools, materials, and experience. I was wrong.

It turned out to be a playable table that is level and has consistent rolls and rebounds, but it sure is ugly to look at right now.

I guess I accomplished what I set out to do...get my table working again, but what I really learned is that when I do get a better table, I will always hire a mechanic to work on it. (and I think I can really tell the difference between a hack and a pro now that I've actually been inthe belly of the beast!)


I didn't mean to come off as a goof or being insulting...sorry. I respect what each of you do (always have, but now to a greater degree!)

Well then I definitely owe you an apology. I'm still curious though, and you've definitely got the fresh perspective...how easy/tough do you think it was to sift through all the information on here?
 
...how easy/tough do you think it was to sift through all the information on here?

It was quite easy, actually. The problem is, like I mentioned, you guys make it seem too easy. I didn't really care what the table looked like, so long as it plays decent, and a lot of information seems cosmetic. Not true..it is based on sound structural design.

I made my table roll level, and the rebound angles and pocket size are all great right now, but who knows for how long? And I also think I had a lot of luck on my hands in the leveling and pocket sizes...no way I could repeat it.

As with anything, I learned more by actually doing it than by reading here, but reading here first but me in the right frame of mind to get started, and I at least understood what I was looking for at each step, even if I didn't quite get there.

...now to tackle the lights...I'm thinking of hanging some old halogen lamps off the garage door opener...should work just fine ;)
 
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