Great details in the pictures and the narrative was exceptionalrealkingcobra said:No problemand thank you for the complements, I do take pride in all my work, as I know others do as well. And trust me, most of the tables I come across today, are no different than the ones I started working on 25 years ago
Glen
I have a method of installing the cloth tight as hell because I premark the cloth as to how much I'm going to stretch it. I know how much Simonis and Championship will stretch on a 9 foot table already from experience, and I always stretch it to the max...LOL Greg Sullivan once accused me of turning Simonis 860 into 760 because I stretched it so tightlonghair said:
...I said, "what do you mean, it says 860 right there on the cloth...it didn't change "
When Donny "SDBilliards" was helping me install the cloth on Brian's GC3, I had already stuck one side of the cloth and was working on the opposite side of the slates when I told him to go ahead and try stretching the cloth to the 5 1/2" stretch marks. I almost died laughing as I watched him stretching the cloth...his feet were sliding on the garage floor as he was trying to get traction enough to stretch the clothlonghair said:
It's not a trade secret, but it is a method unknown by most technicians around the world. That is one of the reasons for the DVDs when I finally get a chance to make them, shortly I hope. As far as set up time, lets put it this way, Pat...with Accu Stats has a video of me installing a bed cloth on a Diamond 9ft from the 2001 DCC. In that video from the time I had the cloth laid out and ready to start the gluing process, I was done installing the cloth 8 minutes 15 secondslonghair said:
but keep in mind, that was 7 years ago, I don't move that fast anymore Wow, I get it now. Not much wiggle room though. Did you scrap much cloth learning to do this?realkingcobra said:It's not a trade secret, but it is a method unknown by most technicians around the world. That is one of the reasons for the DVDs when I finally get a chance to make them, shortly I hope. As far as set up time, lets put it this way, Pat...with Accu Stats has a video of me installing a bed cloth on a Diamond 9ft from the 2001 DCC. In that video from the time I had the cloth laid out and ready to start the gluing process, I was done installing the cloth 8 minutes 15 seconds
Glen
After I've installed the cloth with the max stretch from side to side, then I stretch it end to end as well. On the first end, I stretch it about 60% then on the opposite end, I stretch it the max. The cloth over all the bolt holes sounds like playing a drum it's so tightlonghair said:
And no, I've never lost any cloth before from making a mistake installing it. You can always turn a 9ft bed cloth into a 7ft bed cloth
realkingcobra said:After I've installed the cloth with the max stretch from side to side, then I stretch it end to end as well. On the first end, I stretch it about 60% then on the opposite end, I stretch it the max. The cloth over all the bolt holes sounds like playing a drum it's so tight
Glen
No, in all my years as a technician, I've never heard of getting "less" english on tightly stretched clothNewton said:
But I have seen a difference in english from one pool room to another, because if different types of cloth used, different balls, dirty tables, worn out cloth...in other words, look for the differences between the rooms to make the determination of different effects of "english". As far as "over stretching" cloth, I've never see it
There's a reason why I post pictures of my work, and it's not for bragging rights as to how good I am, as quite a few people on here would assumeuwate said:
I do it because if you, the end consumer has no idea as to the right way of tightening up the pockets on your table at home, then you're at the mercy of whom ever you call to do the work. Triple shimming pockets has been the accepted way of tightening pockets for so long it's a joke, as it's been the incorrect way of doing this kind of work since day one, but if no one points out the correct way of doing this kind of work...then how is anyone suppose to know the right way of doing it? So, my posts are more for information purposes as opposed to promoting work for myself, as I have all the work I can handle as it is, though I do try and help those in which I can, as long as it's in conjunction with delivering Diamond tables around the country 
Thank you Donny, as you've seen it first handsdbilliards said:
You're not to bad yourself there buddy, people all over Las Angeles should be calling on you to work on their tables all day long I know I'm refering any work I get requests for in your area to you that's for sure 
realkingcobra said:Naaa, I didn't do anything with the corners on Brian's table, that was something he had done already. I don't get into refinishing tables, just making them play better
Glen
That's because the facing material used had dried out and turned cookie hard. Pinch the point of the cushions and you'll see what I mean. When pinching the point of the cushions, the facing shouldn't feel to much harder than the cushion rubber, if it is, it's way to hard and should be replaced with neoprene facings, as they won't turn hard as wood and crumble. If neoprene facing 3/16" thick are used, the cloth won't cut through in the corner pockets as wellhang-the-9 said:
I use a Makita 1 1/8" belt-sander, if any Billiards Technician don't have one of these in their inventory of tools...then I don't consider them a real Professional at this tradeFixer said:
