There was some discussion a while back about some flow charts that had been misprinted. Me and a good friend of mine always seem to end up playing each other twice in a certain tournament we go to. My friend went to ask the tournament director what was going on, and the guy said you MF'ers don't understand. I will just say the tournament director upset my friend with his choice of words, and the cops ended up getting involved. I have 2 questions. Can someone direct me to thread about the flow charts with the misprint? and What is up with all the bad language I hear these young guys use? They don't seem to get that it might offend someone that might get more than a little upset about it.
Flow Charts with a Misprint
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I think it was not so much a misprint as an intentional design. Scheduling with no cross-overs is a little easier. Scheduling with cross-overs, which is what you want and what most people prefer, is a little harder. Properly done, you will have no repeat matches until well into later rounds of the losers' side.
Double-elimination is a lousy format for several reasons, but that's another bar fight.
A misprinted chart wouldn't really upset me.....its not like someone tried to rig the event or something.....you gotta play who you got to so to me its no big deal
we used to play alot of tournaments just drawing cards and there were no charts....
but asking a tournament a question about it and then getting cursed is completely uncalled for if thats really the case.
Some people don't take kind to that and regardless it will give you a bad name as a TD.
I had a question about what format might replace a small $10 double-elimination format. I may as well share my answer here:
I like the mini-qualifier format. $5 to enter. Divide the entries into groups of 4 and begin as soon as you have 8 people signed up. Play each group of 4 as single elimination. The winners wait for the finals. Have more mini-qualifiers as people arrive. If someone loses in the minis, they can get back in as many times as they have time for at $5 a shot. Stop the minis and start the main tournament when you run out of entries or when you need to finish for the night. The main tournament is single elimination as well. I suppose you could do the Calcutta as the minis are finishing. I've seen people get in 7 times and still finish high in the money.
What sort of payback formula do you suggest for this format.
That is ridiculous, Why must we keep rewarding those that lost? Let them work on their game if they want a chance at winning!
In this version of a tourney , it will promote poor play as no one will ever try to improve their game. they should not expect that tourneys be made that allows them to continue to play bad.
Remimds me of those parents that stick their kids in sports without any competitiveness, The kind where everybody wins!
Not my cup of tea! And I don`t see it doing the game any good.
H.P.
If there are only 4 in the groups, I think you should pay about half of the group winners in the finals. So, if you have 20 people and 32 total entries, you would have 8 in the finals and pay the top 4.
We've used this general format around here with pretty good results and 8 players in each group. The second place finisher in each group gets his entry fee back. It works well for a 2-day tournament as the winners can go home as soon as they have qualified. In the case of 8-player groups, all finalists are in the money.
I think my explanation wasn't very good. While someone could enter 7 times if the mini tournaments went on long enough, they are paying a new entry fee each time they get back in. If Shane enters one mini and wins it and goes on to the main tournament, and someone who likes to play but doesn't play very well enters 3 times without ever winning a mini and boosts the prize fund, where's the harm? This format actually rewards the better players because they pay only half as much if they go through on their first entry.
I hope that's clearer.
I agree - single elimination is a better format. I like your mini qualifier format.
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