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Michael Andros

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Gar - Just found this while I was looking to find anything on Fat Randy. Thought you'd appreciate it:

What is the one thing Tulsa can be proud of and can more than hold our own on a global scale? Tulsa might not have pro football but it has the game of pocket billiards to be proud of. Legendary matches and unheard of standing offers such as the one where Bill Dugan offered 10k to anyone who could beat David Matlock on the barbox. . . What about the time Randy Wallace (Fat Randy) spotted Mike Sigel the 8. . . while twirlin’ the howdy doody cue all the way to the bank.

I started playing over 20 years ago, and those are some years to be proud of, but some of the stories that I hear from Big Al Jenkins, or Gary Gilliland (Left Handed Gary), Greg Hogue (Spanky) Richard Ortiz (Chief), or even the great Jim McDermott who made pool what it is today here in Tulsa. These stories, which, I’m sure everyone has their own version, but after you hear the same story told in a similar fashion from one old schooler to the next, you begin to reflect on this great game and the high level of energy it brought to our generation.

On the outside, pool is nothing more than getting excited about merely pocketing a ball. At the end of a long hour, when finally, the last ball is made, naturally, we celebrate with a round for the entire group, and go home thinking how relaxing it will be to finally be in front of the TV, no stick, and definitely, no balls.

If the same group of people had been exposed to real pool….. just the other night, Steve Deason is down 20 games playing the ghost at Sheila’s and eventually breaks even at 10:30 am, and did so with multiple 4, 5, and 6 packs. . . . they would have an entirely different opinion about this game. What makes pool great is the fact that it has balls. At times, they roll into the pocket with no problem. Other times, they itch so bad, you might think they were on fire. When you develop your game into what you think is a ‘stroke’, you feel like you have gigantic ones, but, when John Gabriel gets on the next table, suddenly, they shrivel, to the point of extinction… but, be that as it may, it is a great game in this town, because the balls have been flexed to the point of explosion by many a legend.
 
Gar - Just found this while I was looking to find anything on Fat Randy. Thought you'd appreciate it:

What is the one thing Tulsa can be proud of and can more than hold our own on a global scale? Tulsa might not have pro football but it has the game of pocket billiards to be proud of. Legendary matches and unheard of standing offers such as the one where Bill Dugan offered 10k to anyone who could beat David Matlock on the barbox. . . What about the time Randy Wallace (Fat Randy) spotted Mike Sigel the 8. . . while twirlin’ the howdy doody cue all the way to the bank.

I started playing over 20 years ago, and those are some years to be proud of, but some of the stories that I hear from Big Al Jenkins, or Gary Gilliland (Left Handed Gary), Greg Hogue (Spanky) Richard Ortiz (Chief), or even the great Jim McDermott who made pool what it is today here in Tulsa. These stories, which, I’m sure everyone has their own version, but after you hear the same story told in a similar fashion from one old schooler to the next, you begin to reflect on this great game and the high level of energy it brought to our generation.

On the outside, pool is nothing more than getting excited about merely pocketing a ball. At the end of a long hour, when finally, the last ball is made, naturally, we celebrate with a round for the entire group, and go home thinking how relaxing it will be to finally be in front of the TV, no stick, and definitely, no balls.

If the same group of people had been exposed to real pool….. just the other night, Steve Deason is down 20 games playing the ghost at Sheila’s and eventually breaks even at 10:30 am, and did so with multiple 4, 5, and 6 packs. . . . they would have an entirely different opinion about this game. What makes pool great is the fact that it has balls. At times, they roll into the pocket with no problem. Other times, they itch so bad, you might think they were on fire. When you develop your game into what you think is a ‘stroke’, you feel like you have gigantic ones, but, when John Gabriel gets on the next table, suddenly, they shrivel, to the point of extinction… but, be that as it may, it is a great game in this town, because the balls have been flexed to the point of explosion by many a legend.
Where'd you find this? Dude i know all those guys. Some very well. The story about Randy and Sigel is true. Sigel and Hubbart came to town figuring they'd find easy pickins. Randy started out getting weight and by the time the smoke cleared Mike was gettin the 8 and gettin beat. Randy's high gear with the small Valley cueball was insanely high. At the height of Buddy's game he tried givin him the 8 and didn't get there. You mention Spanky. I took him on his first out-of-town trip in '90 to the HueblerCup in Dallas. I think he was about 15 at the time. Good memories.
 
Where'd you find this? Dude i know all those guys. Some very well. The story about Randy and Sigel is true. Sigel and Hubbart came to town figuring they'd find easy pickins. Randy started out getting weight and by the time the smoke cleared Mike was gettin the 8 and gettin beat. Randy's high gear with the small Valley cueball was insanely high. At the height of Buddy's game he tried givin him the 8 and didn't get there. You mention Spanky. I took him on his first out-of-town trip in '90 to the HueblerCup in Dallas. I think he was about 15 at the time. Good memories.

Yeah, like I said, i figgered you'd like it. Here's the url:

https://skcustomcues.wordpress.com/2012/10/25/a-breeding-ground-for-pool/
 
Yeah, like I said, i figgered you'd like it. Here's the url:

https://skcustomcues.wordpress.com/2012/10/25/a-breeding-ground-for-pool/
That guy is Sung Kang. His dad has TaeKwonDo studio here. Sung tried his hand at making cues but it didn't work out. What's sad is the fact that Tulsa's pool scene now is virtually dead. When the casino's opened on every corner pool just started a slow fade. Its hangin on by a thread but the golden days,as you well know, are in the rear-view mirror. Glad i got to sweat at least some of it.
 
Doesn't tulsa serve as home to the greatest Slot Machine Mechanic in the world?

His name slips my memory but he could go into any casino and walk out with money,thousands

Verl horn introduced him to me,I bought his Balabushkas

Eddie ------, but I can
not lift his cover,
Tim scruggs also knew this guy from Baltimore

His life size picture can be seen at the Las Vegas Air Port

Last I heard they paid him to stay away,called it security

Oklahoma is famous for action and good pool,
Joey and his pal are not shabby
 
Lets not forget...,

You cant mention Oklahoma and Pool unless you mention James Walden!!
 
Doesn't tulsa serve as home to the greatest Slot Machine Mechanic in the world?

His name slips my memory but he could go into any casino and walk out with money,thousands

Verl horn introduced him to me,I bought his Balabushkas

Eddie ------, but I can
not lift his cover,
Tim scruggs also knew this guy from Baltimore

His life size picture can be seen at the Las Vegas Air Port

Last I heard they paid him to stay away,called it security

Oklahoma is famous for action and good pool,
Joey and his pal are not shabby
Actually a couple known for that "skill". I know the one that the HistoryChannel did an episode about. Tom Carmichael. Long retired from Vegas and runs a small poolroom, T's, in Tulsa.
 
That guy is Sung Kang. His dad has TaeKwonDo studio here. Sung tried his hand at making cues but it didn't work out. What's sad is the fact that Tulsa's pool scene now is virtually dead. When the casino's opened on every corner pool just started a slow fade. Its hangin on by a thread but the golden days,as you well know, are in the rear-view mirror. Glad i got to sweat at least some of it.

You and me both, mon frere... odds are those days are, sadly enough, gone forever. But I remain at least hopeful some small part will either remain and grow stronger or wherever it's actually dead, will come back from the grave. I don't want to accept it's just gone...
 
michael
indirectly that article was for me too......:thumbup:
my house pro mark coats grew up in tulsa and has talked about several of the names mentioned in the article... i feel like i know them too,,,,,:)
 
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