For sale. 6 jumpers ready to ship.

Graciocues

Graciocues

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The last batch didn't last long.

Best jumper on the market.
These went quickly last time.
I have 6 ready to go.
$85.00 each plus $5 shipping. (In the lower 48)

They are carbon fiber with phenolic tips. I have a little secret that I do to phenolic tips so the don't miscue as much. I don't want the tip copied
so I didn't show a picture of the tip. The tip also works great on break cues.
Weigh 4.2oz, 42" long.
These are designed for the dart throw jumps. Full ball 1/4 inch away and up to three feet away. A little practice and andbody can jump any ball.

The cue with the Black ferrule is the one I've been shooting with for months. Lots of peole have played with it and given great feedback.

The links below are me shooting quickly without aiming or chalking. A little more time aiming and chalking the ball would clear everytime.
In the first video the jumps are 1/2" between the balls. The longer jumps are 2-3 feet away.
The second video is the side angle. Now that I've watched the videos I wish I would of chalked between shots. Chalking makes a difference.

http://www.dailymotion.com/batoven12/video/12776672
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/edi...m_jump-vidoe-2

This video is some basic instructions on how to use the cue.

http://www.dailymotion.com/batoven12/video/12942903
 

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Scott,
Has mine been shipped yet? I haven't received the first one that I ordered back in early December or the one that you said that you were going to ship out Monday Priority Mail. I really would like to hear from you on this matter.

David...........
Graciocues said:
The last batch didn't last long.

Best jumper on the market.
These went quickly last time.
I have 6 ready to go.
$85.00 each plus $5 shipping. (In the lower 48)

They are carbon fiber with phenolic tips. I have a little secret that I do to phenolic tips so the don't miscue as much. I don't want the tip copied
so I didn't show a picture of the tip. The tip also works great on break cues.
Weigh 4.2oz, 42" long.
These are designed for the dart throw jumps. Full ball 1/4 inch away and up to three feet away. A little practice and andbody can jump any ball.

The cue with the Black ferrule is the one I've been shooting with for months. Lots of peole have played with it and given great feedback.

The links below are me shooting quickly without aiming or chalking. A little more time aiming and chalking the ball would clear everytime.
In the first video the jumps are 1/2" between the balls. The longer jumps are 2-3 feet away.
The second video is the side angle. Now that I've watched the videos I wish I would of chalked between shots. Chalking makes a difference.

http://www.dailymotion.com/batoven12/video/12776672
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/edi...m_jump-vidoe-2

This video is some basic instructions on how to use the cue.

http://www.dailymotion.com/batoven12/video/12942903
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Graciocues said:
The cue does the work. Once you get the stroke down it's very easy.
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you fouled in the last video lol. only joking. im going to have try one of these when the next batch comes out. looks like a good deal
 
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Has mine been shipped yet? I haven't received the first one that I ordered back in early December or the one that you said that you were going to ship out Monday Priority Mail. I really would like to hear from you on this matter.

David...........[/B][/QUOTE]


I made it to the post office today. When the first one shows I'd apprecaite it if you would look at the date and post here stating I sent it on the date I said I did. I sent a package to Dave38 on the same day and he sent me a PM saying his package showed up today 1/29/09. For some reason the parcel post took weeks to arive.
I PM'ed you the tracking number for the second cue. If the first shows up you can keep both jumpers for the troubles like I told you the last time we spoke.
I'm not mad for the final time and I thouht this situation would be better left private. I thought we could handle this without hurting our reputations. Even though we spent 25 hours (2-3 hours a day) on the phone designing a cue. I spent money ordering parts and started the cue then you canceled the build. Now the jumper doesn't show. I know it looks like I didn'y send it.
We spent so much time on the everything in my shop got backed up. I was late sending the jumper but did ship it on the date I stated. I sent you a picture of the receipt showing I sent a package to your home town.

Now that dave38's package showed up today I bet yours will also.

I am not perfect and work hard to make AZer's happy.
 
As Scott has stated, I received my package today from him. He was very pleasent, and sent the package on good faith as an exchange of goods. He chose to send first, and came thru perfectly. I have never dealt with him before this, but am very impressed with the way he does business. I also had him choose the goods to send, and he did a great job, the woods are great! I have included a photo of the postage from the package to show the date sent, and my zip code, which I circled in red. I will say that the post office was QUITE a bit slower than normal, but that isn't Scotts's fault, that's the P.O. doing a bad job, 14 days to get here is a little bit late. I cannot comment as to the details of your particular deal, but IMHO, Scott seems to be a man of his word, and would deal with him anytime. Not to many people on this or any other internet forum would have sent $150 worth of wood to a stranger 3000-4000 miles away without a payment, or deposit, just a promise. That says a lot of his character in my book. I hope all goes well for both parties involved, and all come away to the good. Hopefully your jumper is in your hands in a day or two.
I have had a couple times, my APA weekly paperwork show up really late, like 2-3 weeks late, but the date on it was from 2 days before that match..........and the post office wants to raise the postage more, and deliver less days? Go figure.
Dave
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Scott,
Thanks for the tracking number that you provided via PM . I have been looking for the jumper for so long.. it's finally good to have a a tracking number. I'll look to see if it shows up in the tracking system today .. since it didn't show yesterday when you sent the PM . Thanks..


David...............
Graciocues said:
Has mine been shipped yet? I haven't received the first one that I ordered back in early December or the one that you said that you were going to ship out Monday Priority Mail. I really would like to hear from you on this matter.

David...........[/B]
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I made it to the post office today. When the first one shows I'd apprecaite it if you would look at the date and post here stating I sent it on the date I said I did. I sent a package to Dave38 on the same day and he sent me a PM saying his package showed up today 1/29/09. For some reason the parcel post took weeks to arive.
I PM'ed you the tracking number for the second cue. If the first shows up you can keep both jumpers for the troubles like I told you the last time we spoke.
I'm not mad for the final time and I thouht this situation would be better left private. I thought we could handle this without hurting our reputations. Even though we spent 25 hours (2-3 hours a day) on the phone designing a cue. I spent money ordering parts and started the cue then you canceled the build. Now the jumper doesn't show. I know it looks like I didn'y send it.
We spent so much time on the everything in my shop got backed up. I was late sending the jumper but did ship it on the date I stated. I sent you a picture of the receipt showing I sent a package to your home town.

Now that dave38's package showed up today I bet yours will also.

I am not perfect and work hard to make AZer's happy.[/QUOTE]
 
It seems you are making a point of some sort???

Only about today should the original package even be arriving as per the post office's 5-14 day estimate.



cashin said:
I really would like to hear from you on this matter.

David...........QUOTE]
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I have always answered your PMs, calls, etc. I have not avoided you or the issue.


I told you the cue was on it's way, parcel post and, per your insistence, even sent you a picture of the receipt.

The cue was shipped on Jan.15th. It is now Jan. 30th. You posted publicly on Jan 29th.
If I am not mistaken, today is 14 days from shipping date with a Monday holiday and 2 Sundays, when there is no service.

All that estimated, I believe that your original jump cue should arrive on about Monday, Feb 2nd.


I have already built and sent you a second jump cue, sent a tracking number, told you to keep both, should the first one arrive, and done anything and everything to make you feel comfortable. All this BEFORE the original cue is actually late or "missing"


cashin said:
I'll look to see if it shows up in the tracking system today .. since it didn't show yesterday when you sent the PM . Thanks..
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....Yet you still seem to want to drop little comments?


WHY?
 
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Scott, I have an email where you said you shipped it on Jan 7th.. not the 15th. That's why I said what I said. I can post all emails if you would like.
Graciocues said:
It seems you are making a point of some sort???

Only about today should the original package even be arriving as per the post office's 5-14 day estimate.





I have always answered your PMs, calls, etc. I have not avoided you or the issue.


I told you the cue was on it's way, parcel post and, per your insistence, even sent you a picture of the receipt.

The cue was shipped on Jan.15th. It is now Jan. 30th. You posted publicly on Jan 29th.
If I am not mistaken, today is 14 days from shipping date with a Monday holiday and 2 Sundays, when there is no service.

All that estimated, I believe that your original jump cue should arrive on about Monday, Feb 2nd.


I have already built and sent you a second jump cue, sent a tracking number, told you to keep both, should the first one arrive, and done anything and everything to make you feel comfortable. All this BEFORE the original cue is actually late or "missing"




....Yet you still seem to want to drop little comments?


WHY?
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I went through my records and I did send the cue on the 7th. I've sent 20 of these cues out and my memory for each individual cue isn't perfect. This isn't about dates because I have done everything I stated.

You ordered a jumper. I told you I was out of the jumpers and needed to build one for you. You sent the check. I deposited the check. These things take time.

We were in communication every day until I got the email saying you wanted to cancel a different cue order. I waited a few days to answer because everything was backing up and I needed to get some work done. Then we talked on the phone and through PM's and I gave you an ETA. No problems at this point.

I didn't send it for a couple days due to the fact that my whole shop was behind schedule. I packed it on Monday and couldn't find your address. I Emailed you and asking for it. I didn't get the return Email in time on Monday, I didn't have the time on Tuesday, so I shipped the cue on Wednesday.

You started questioning me after 6 days (give or take a day). Parcel post takes time. I started building you a second jumper to make you happy. We had no problem until I sent the picture of the receipt and you questioned it. That surprised me and this is where things started getting ugly. I followed through with everything I said from the start, staying in communication and being polite to do what I can to make this situation better.

Without checking my records I thought the jumper was mailed at the same time as Dave's package. My mistake, the cue was shipped on the day I told you.

Sorry Dave38 for mentioning your package and involving you. I appreciate the support.

We had this under control and now it's ugly. This isn't a necessary argument and the two jumpers will show up.

I emailed you better pictures of the receipt showing you the dates and address of the first cue. I have no control of the post office!

I don't have the time to argue anymore. If you don't like the jumpers I'll refund the money and you can send them back.
 
cashin said:
Scott,
I have been looking for the jumper for so long.. it's finally good to have a tracking number. I'll look to see if it shows up in the tracking system today .. since it didn't show yesterday when you sent the PM . Thanks..


David...............
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Just popped in to see what these jump cues are about and there seems to be something goin' on!

Oh, my favorite type of thread. <rolling eyes> Since I'm here I may as well drop my 2 cents!

Seems to me that whether the cue was shipped on the 7th or the 15th, both dates mentioned, that it is way too soon to be assuming that anyone is ripping off anyone else which seems to be the implication being made by Cashin.

I run an ebay business and know first hand that the post office can take forever and one really needs to wait at least 3 weeks for a parcel post package to show up before becoming concerned.

That being said, it seems awfully soon to be trying to drag someone's reputation through the mud and implying horrible things about them.

Gracio, do you have enemies or competition that is threatened by you? LOL

Cashin, your posts seem to be antagonistic, and with purpose. The guy said the thing has been mailed, twice, and seems to have provided a tracking number, why not give him the benefit of the doubt and wait a few weeks?
Generally, from what I've noticed around these forums, People who post complaints and comments like this have been waiting far longer than 2 or 3weeks for an item to arrive! Seems to me this should have been private for at least another month or two with no cue and total avoidance of the situation by Gracio.

Gracio, seems to me you have bent over backwards trying to make this guy happy. I admire your willingness to make things right and difuse a situation. Some people just can't be pleased! You seem to be a stand-up guy. I read alot of your posts and hope to be able to get a cue from you soon.

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I realize there are 2 sides to every story but I have to go with Gracio, so far, on this one, due to the lack of time that has passed and hijacking of this thread with rude comments, where Gracio is trying to do business.

Character is a big issue with me.

Cashin, If you had a legitimate complaint, you maybe should have started your own thread.

I don't think, at this point, you have a legitimate complaint since it has only been a few weeks, like I said, give the guy the benefit of the doubt. He showed up here and promptly addressed the issue, unlike others who avoid the thread and let everyone wonder, meanwhile tarnishing their own reputations and careers.


What else do you want from him?


JMHO and Observations!!!


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Gracio, I would like one of these jumpers, have any left? Pm sent.
 
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