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[RocketQ]

Problem is nobody can take it for what it is worth. Blud has his way of building cues I have mine dz has his kj has his everyone is a little different. So with that being said TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH... It is an opinion. Take what you read try different methids and figure out what works for YOU. Like most of us had to before we had az forums. Pissing contests have no place in a public forum. Do that on the pool table in person get it out.. Leave the forum for those who appreciate the help and need it for that matter. Like blud said nobody has it all figured out...

Just more ramblings from a wood nut....

 

[Michael Webb]

Mike, we have been friends for a long time, and I realize your teasing, but some may not, I would never do such a thing, so I ask you to, please refrain from posting this kind of stuff. It just causes trouble, down line, somewhere some place.....Why can't we stick to the subject matter, of cuemaking?
thanks
blud

Your right, I was having fun.

 

[cueman]

On the ICA forum the Cue Compnents thread would have got deleted if that kind of stuff had been posted there. I guess that is censorship, but that thread crossed a line several pages back that would not have met the standard of professionalism that we expect there. Debating on technique is okay. But getting down right nasty and insulting is not. I would not take the job of moderator here if paid to do so, as no one has agreed to standards of professionalism like we have in the ICA. It is rarely the established cuemakers who cause start the trouble on this forum, but some make the mistake of taking the insult bait and then post things as bad as the instigators.
I have had several phone calls from AZ members asking me not to stop posting on here. They said too many good cumakers have already left here because of the way threads deteriate. The fact there are some who have some class and really do want a little help is just about the only reason I keep coming over here.

 

[j2pac]

The voice of reason. Thank you blud, I second your emotion.
Regards.

 

[Michael Webb]

On the ICA forum the Cue Compnents thread would have got deleted if that kind of stuff had been posted there. I guess that is censorship, but that thread crossed a line several pages back that would not have met the standard of professionalism that we expect there. Debating on technique is okay. But getting down right nasty and insulting is not. I would not take the job of moderator here if paid to do so, as no one has agreed to standards of professionalism like we have in the ICA. It is rarely the established cuemakers who cause start the trouble on this forum, but some make the mistake of taking the insult bait and then post things as bad as the instigators.
I have had several phone calls from AZ members asking me not to stop posting on here. They said too many good cumakers have already left here because of the way threads deteriate. The fact there are some who have some class and really do want a little help is just about the only reason I keep coming over here.

Well said Chris.

 

[Newton]

Good for you Newton...
blud

Well, I don't know you or many of the other posters which I consider as friends but I only want to post my humble view on the topic which has nothing to do with the last "bashing" threads or the individual posters.

I do appreciate the thought behind you're thread and I feel as a "fresh one" that the contribution many of you give is worth gold, for me at least. Being able to ask without being "#$hit" upon has helped me a lot and Chris H guidance has been helping me a lot through his book and videos. A "Bashing" contest would most likely put me away permanent, but luckily this did not happen to me.

I have experienced that I'm not "accepted" or "experienced" in some eyes in views on making cues but that has not kicked me that much back in respect of eager to get going. It has actually fueled me more than put me off. However this I guess do not apply to all of us so when you mention that you have colleges which is not interested in participating in the discussion because they don't want to knock their experience and knowledge to a never ending battle, I do understand them.

If we however can (I know I have used "However" to much) appreciate helping each other without adding that last "from to top down" tone some times it could be that more of us (fresh ones) dear to post up here and contribute when we have got "Dry behind our ears" in many respect.

If a car repair/mechanics is approached by the owner of the car asking : How many cars have you made?
None ...
Oooo dear you don't know anything about car making so I can't discuss cars with you then...


I guess the "Car story" do not feel that comfortable to me, but I stick up here and do my best to help in which ever thread I can.
If not I shut my mouth and keep away
Some one mentioned books..............

Long post and I could have made it longer but that's it for now.

Glad to have you all contributing and hope that more would come.

Regards
Kent J
"Newton"
www.kendocues.com

 

[blud]

hi chris

On the ICA forum the Cue Compnents thread would have got deleted if that kind of stuff had been posted there. I guess that is censorship, but that thread crossed a line several pages back that would not have met the standard of professionalism that we expect there. Debating on technique is okay. But getting down right nasty and insulting is not. I would not take the job of moderator here if paid to do so, as no one has agreed to standards of professionalism like we have in the ICA. It is rarely the established cuemakers who cause start the trouble on this forum, but some make the mistake of taking the insult bait and then post things as bad as the instigators.
I have had several phone calls from AZ members asking me not to stop posting on here. They said too many good cumakers have already left here because of the way threads deteriate. The fact there are some who have some class and really do want a little help is just about the only reason I keep coming over here.

Hello Chris, your another kind person who helps many here. I, for one do appreciate what your doing, and have done for years, I, at one time or another have a hard time explaining myself on the forum, and many take it the wrong way.
The two of us, have been friends for over 20 plus years, and have never had any problems, some of your guys think that I have knocked your association, this is not so, you and I, have talked of this and we both know where we stand, I have backed you at every turn, your good for our industry, and I'm proud to say were good friends, please keep up your good work, we need your input.
blud

 

[blud]

vegas

Your right, I was having fun.

Mike, I'll be going to Vegas for my last tournament, to work, at the APA, in Mid-Aug. wish you could be there, dinners on me if you make it, and we can talk about the old days and all the road trips, Janice and I, had much pleasure visiting with you, over the years.
thanks my friend
blud

 

[blud]

thanks

The voice of reason. Thank you blud, I second your emotion.
Regards.

Thank you very much, it's so nice to have quality talk here. Keep it up folks.
blud

 

[Michael Webb]

Mike, I'll be going to Vegas for my last tournament, to work, at the APA, in Mid-Aug. wish you could be there, dinners on me if you make it, and we can talk about the old days and all the road trips, Janice and I, had much pleasure visiting with you, over the years.
thanks my friend
blud

Thanks Blud
The pleasure was all mine,

 

[WilleeCue]

We are all moderators of what we read here.
Just because someone posts something here dont mean you must read it.
I stopped reading the aforementioned thread about a week ago.
Everything that needed to be said, was said in the first few days.
After that it lost any value, became a dead horse, and was no longer worth my time.

What I am getting at is that no one is required to read everything posted on AZB nor are they required to reply.

Blud, You say no one has it figured out.
I tend to think otherwise.
Anyone that has been around cue making for more than a few years actually does have IT figured out reasonably well.
I would say that you, Mike Webb, Sheldon, Tucker, Arnot, Hightower, and other accomplished cue makers that have been around for awhile, have IT figured out quite well.

That may be a reason some of the cue makers have quit hanging around here.
Perhaps they grew tired of reading the same old questions, answers, arguments, and such and just quietly move on as the value of information became no longer worth their time.

In the beginning all is fresh and interesting but as time passes it becomes harder and harder to find new ideas, worthy topics, and good discussions about cue making.
That is not to say Cue making itself becomes a bore, but rather talking about it all the time becomes less interesting.

 

[jazznpool]

There are many well known cuemakers who read AZ regularly or ocassionally who won't post here because its a no win situation for them. The resident AZ experts will disparage or attack them because they build a cue in 4 months, because they don't age their woods for 63 years, or because they don't use brown shaftwood with sugar. I don't blame them one bit and I advise the ones I speak with not to post here.

Martin

We are all moderators of what we read here.
Just because someone posts something here dont mean you must read it.
I stopped reading the aforementioned thread about a week ago.
Everything that needed to be said, was said in the first few days.
After that it lost any value, became a dead horse, and was no longer worth my time.

What I am getting at is that no one is required to read everything posted on AZB nor are they required to reply.

Blud, You say no one has it figured out.
I tend to think otherwise.
Anyone that has been around cue making for more than a few years actually does have IT figured out reasonably well.
I would say that you, Mike Webb, Sheldon, Tucker, Arnot, Hightower, and other accomplished cue makers that have been around for awhile, have IT figured out quite well.

That may be a reason some of the cue makers have quit hanging around here.
Perhaps they grew tired of reading the same old questions, answers, arguments, and such and just quietly move on as the value of information became no longer worth their time.

In the beginning all is fresh and interesting but as time passes it becomes harder and harder to find new ideas, worthy topics, and good discussions about cue making.
That is not to say Cue making itself becomes a bore, but rather talking about it all the time becomes less interesting.

 

[blud]

willie

We are all moderators of what we read here.
Just because someone posts something here dont mean you must read it.
I stopped reading the aforementioned thread about a week ago.
Everything that needed to be said, was said in the first few days.
After that it lost any value, became a dead horse, and was no longer worth my time.

What I am getting at is that no one is required to read everything posted on AZB nor are they required to reply.

Blud, You say no one has it figured out.
I tend to think otherwise.
Anyone that has been around cue making for more than a few years actually does have IT figured out reasonably well.
I would say that you, Mike Webb, Sheldon, Tucker, Arnot, Hightower, and other accomplished cue makers that have been around for awhile, have IT figured out quite well.

That may be a reason some of the cue makers have quit hanging around here.
Perhaps they grew tired of reading the same old questions, answers, arguments, and such and just quietly move on as the value of information became no longer worth their time.

In the beginning all is fresh and interesting but as time passes it becomes harder and harder to find new ideas, worthy topics, and good discussions about cue making.
That is not to say Cue making itself becomes a bore, but rather talking about it all the time becomes less interesting.

Thanks for your thoughts, Willie, your also one of the nice guys.
How did you weather the strom?
Hope you faired well.
blud

 

[TripXQ]

blud

Hi Blud,
Even though we met only a few years ago I choose to call you my friend for your openness and immediate respect you've shown to me at the EXPOs. Yours and others comments about the forum ring very true. They have kept me, for one, in the background only responding infrequently because of the bashing mentality.
The ICA forum Chris H directs allows for free exchange of information without the bashing mentality. It is only open to ICA members as you know. Much is gained even though there may be some disagreement on technique. It would be nice to return to the good ole days, but if this forum doesn't change the good ole days may and will move elsewhere. Then the complainers and bashers will have it all to themselves. Maybe that's what they wanted in the first place?
Hope to see you again soon. Maybe over a drink at the next EXPO?
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues

 

[blud]

hi

Hi Blud,
Even though we met only a few years ago I choose to call you my friend for your openness and immediate respect you've shown to me at the EXPOs. Yours and others comments about the forum ring very true. They have kept me, for one, in the background only responding infrequently because of the bashing mentality.
The ICA forum Chris H directs allows for free exchange of information without the bashing mentality. It is only open to ICA members as you know. Much is gained even though there may be some disagreement on technique. It would be nice to return to the good ole days, but if this forum doesn't change the good ole days may and will move elsewhere. Then the complainers and bashers will have it all to themselves. Maybe that's what they wanted in the first place?
Hope to see you again soon. Maybe over a drink at the next EXPO?
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues

Tom, I, think it's best to pay no attention to those guys, just ignore them and they will go away, just talk past them, and get good answers from those who are in the know..
I look forward to seeing many of you folks soon.
blud